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Old 02-27-2014, 05:41 PM   #61
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I've always preferred "cracker" as long as it's pronounced "crack-ah" and not "crack-er."
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If the NFL wants to go PC, then they should fine the players, not penalize the team. A 15 yard penalty is a horrible idea, but a fine only affects the player involved.
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:11 PM   #63
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Who decides what word(s) get banned and which word is next? Dumb idea to me.
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:44 PM   #64
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Who decides what word(s) get banned and which word is next?

Society.

Example- would YOU consider the N word to be acceptable in general public settings?

If not- why do you think that is? Here's a hint- it's the first word of this response.
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I sure as hell hope that each and every one of you who is against banning the word, would likely be proponents of certain other words deemed offensive by society (like the F bomb)

Can't have it both ways.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:00 PM   #66
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Discrimination and pressure-cooking assimilation aren't mutually exclusive.

The problem with the "NFL sets the rules" part is that when you take it too far, people get pissed. I'm not sure of the whole history around the players' union, but I wouldn't be surprised if it arose out of the NFL upper management digging in too deep. I can see where the league would want to clean this up to sell more tickets and make the league look more reputable in the public's eye, especially after controversy surrounding concussions and martin-incognito. However I think there could be an unintended consequence of pissing off too many players and creating a new debacle. I think it would've been better left alone. I think they could come up with a more arbitrary rule rather than eliminating one word that the NFL could appeal to in cases of the player calling the referee the n-word.
The NFLPA would look like idiots for trying to defend the use of the "n word" by anyone whether that is right or wrong. It's not a battle worth fighting over. If anyone is going to fight for it, it is going to be members of hip hop culture speaking up against the rule. What effect that has, who knows.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:04 PM   #67
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Society.

Example- would YOU consider the N word to be acceptable in general public settings?

If not- why do you think that is? Here's a hint- it's the first word of this response.
No, I would not use any type of vulgar language in public and try not to in private. However, common decency can't be legislated and when you give a little, "they" usually take a mile. Where would the line be drawn is all I want to know.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:06 PM   #68
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Example- would YOU consider the N word to be acceptable in general public settings?

If not- why do you think that is? Here's a hint- it's the first word of this response.
More like anyone who doesn't like it and willing to do something about it. Not really the entire society.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:40 PM   #69
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yes, I realize that. Answer me this. You wrote, " to keep just the NFL from getting to be tax exempt"

Why should the NFL be tax exempt when MLB and the NBA are not?
Only the NFL "front office" is tax exempt. Their is NFL properties LLC and NFL enterprises LLC. If the NFL was not a tax exempt organization they still wouldn't pay any taxes because the NFL operates at a deficit. at 3/31/12 the liabilities of the NFL exceeded the assets of the NFL by over 300 million dollars. If it was a LLC they wouldn't pay any taxes anyway. The execs have crazy salaries to keep the league in the red. The league makes all that crazy money but then distributes it to the leagues. The teams are for profit and pay taxes, however they pay tax deductible dues and assessments which reduce their tax liability.
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No, I would not use any type of vulgar language in public and try not to in private. However, common decency can't be legislated and when you give a little, "they" usually take a mile. Where would the line be drawn is all I want to know.
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The ones that are making the decisions or making the rules!! The ones that everyone wants to defer to because it is easier to let "they" make those choices for the rest of us.
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:02 PM   #73
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this thread is more entertaining than a uniform thread or who is the starting QB next year at least.
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:06 PM   #74
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That word is used more than you can imagine! By both cultures.
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The NFLPA would look like idiots for trying to defend the use of the "n word" by anyone whether that is right or wrong. It's not a battle worth fighting over. If anyone is going to fight for it, it is going to be members of hip hop culture speaking up against the rule. What effect that has, who knows.
I think it's a bigger question about freedom of cultural expression, and fighting for autonomy is a worthy cause. 'Merica. I wasn't saying it would be an issue for the NFLPA, I was just using that as an example of struggle between players and upper management. I think there will probably be some outspoken opponents to it though no doubt.
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I for one am glad that we're at least at the point of having this silly, trivial discussion instead of where our nation used to be.
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No, I would not use any type of vulgar language in public and try not to in private. However, common decency can't be legislated and when you give a little, "they" usually take a mile. Where would the line be drawn is all I want to know.

Can you give me an example of where "giving" on the N word might cause them to "take" more?

I mean, it really does sound like some people are trivializing the offensive nature of the N word. This isn't some word thy black people suddenly decided would be offensive (which is what you're implying will happen with "next" thing 'they' take)
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I agree with the what's next statement. I mean, how about the "C" word in women's sports or "Q" word in Missouri football.
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I agree with the what's next statement. I mean, how about the "C" word in women's sports or "Q" word in Missouri football.

Do you think either of those words should be considered acceptable?
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Do you think either of those words should be considered acceptable?
I think this is the problem...who in society gets to decide what is acceptable? Personally, I don't want society deciding for me, but that is my personal opinion/choice. All these rules change depending on the society you live in, so I need something a little more stabilized than blowing in the wind.
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