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Old 03-04-2014, 10:59 PM   #121
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Nahhh, UK isn't a very good team.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:00 PM   #122
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We've seen it a lot this season where we've played a good, if not even great, first half and then faltered down the stretch. I see it as a positive sign that we're able to compete with teams that are clearly better than us. We just don't have the depth to carry that kind of effort through an entire game. Hopefully this will change as Martin gets more of his recruits on campus.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:00 PM   #123
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I don't see UF getting far in the tourney once they go up against other conference refs. Once they start getting called on some of those reach in fouls, and fouls under the basket they will fall out of their element.
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Here is the analysis of the last two games:

KY: We fought hard, KY had an off night and because they are young, they folded to a more determined team. They do not have the experience to handle that situation. We won a game on effort.

FLA: We hung in for a half. FLA went into the locker and took off the Clark Kent suit for the second half. We could not shoot or run offense, their defense is very good. FLA is a good, seasoned team.

This has nothing to do with the progress of this team. We will be better with more depth and a couple more players.
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We still have major issues in the post. Carrera and Henry combined for 0 points and 8 fouls. Ringer didn't last a minute before he was pulled. The Europeans looked good in the first half, but disappeared in the second. I can't say I've seen a lot of improvement in any of them since the beginning of the season.
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L-Chat did not play that much in the second half for some reason, but Steele sure did. He fired up exactly 2 points and how many turnovers?
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News flash, we're still a bad bball team and short 3-4 players. UK didn't change that and UF exposes it in a bad way. We will be building for a long time. 2 seasons min from the looks of things tonight.
It might take longer than 2 seasons. It'll take Frank as long as it took Dawn. We're not good and I thought these group of new players would get us competitive. If Frank wants to stick it out he can get us there but we have a long way to go.
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We still have major issues in the post. Carrera and Henry combined for 0 points and 8 fouls. Ringer didn't last a minute before he was pulled. The Europeans looked good in the first half, but disappeared in the second. I can't say I've seen a lot of improvement in any of them since the beginning of the season.
Henry does absolutely nothing when he is in except get beat and foul.
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It might take longer than 2 seasons. It'll take Frank as long as it took Dawn. We're not good and I thought these group of new players would get us competitive. If Frank wants to stick it out he can get us there but we have a long way to go.
Yea, I agree and was being somewhat overly optimistic with the 2 years although I think with 2 very strong recruiting classes the team can be competitive in most games and pull off more upsets. To be a consistent winner like the wbb team, it will take a really long time and I don't think Frank stays that long. Whether it's his choice or someone else. He just can't get his style of game played with the "talent" he has. Most of the guys on this team wouldn't see the floor for many teams around the country yet he has to play them.
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We still have major issues in the post. Carrera and Henry combined for 0 points and 8 fouls. Ringer didn't last a minute before he was pulled. The Europeans looked good in the first half, but disappeared in the second. I can't say I've seen a lot of improvement in any of them since the beginning of the season.
UF coaches made changes and their team responded. Good sign of a very good team. We were in it because they weren't in the 1st half.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:55 AM   #131
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our offense was awful in the 2nd half and we never located frazier all night. once it was 39-35 it caught up with us. that was the turning point, bad turnover, fast break foul, they miss both free throws and we let them get the offensive rebound and it eventually leads to a 3 and they were off from there.

brenton williams made those 2 threes during that 7-0 run to cut it to 39-35. we made 5 shots total the entire 2nd half.
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Yea, I agree and was being somewhat overly optimistic with the 2 years although I think with 2 very strong recruiting classes the team can be competitive in most games and pull off more upsets. To be a consistent winner like the wbb team, it will take a really long time and I don't think Frank stays that long. Whether it's his choice or someone else. He just can't get his style of game played with the "talent" he has. Most of the guys on this team wouldn't see the floor for many teams around the country yet he has to play them.
I think Frank will stay the course in Columbia. He knew this was a big rebuilding job when he got here. He spoke many times about changing the culture of the program just like Spurrier did with the football team. Frank will get his recruits and we will see the results soon. The next two years we should see a big change for the better. Don't forget he just cleaned house this time last year. Not so sure about next year, but I think expecting a tourney team the year after next is reasonable.
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Old 03-05-2014, 10:24 AM   #133
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I think Frank will stay the course in Columbia. He knew this was a big rebuilding job when he got here. He spoke many times about changing the culture of the program just like Spurrier did with the football team. Frank will get his recruits and we will see the results soon. The next two years we should see a big change for the better. Don't forget he just cleaned house this time last year. Not so sure about next year, but I think expecting a tourney team the year after next is reasonable.
Yes, I get that but all new coaches in all sports usually use the "change the culture" talk. The culture isn't the issue, it's talent. Maybe coaching style to match that talent but that's yet to be seen. I think if Frank were to answer honestly about this he'd say it's much tougher than he thought it would be coming in. We will continue to struggle with recruiting and lose far more than we win. He needs to continue to land top in state talent. The Peak kid from Gaffney is one example. He was a long shot but those are the types that Spurrier kept a home and built much of our success around. We got 1, but we need many many more and they're far less common in SC HS BB.
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Yes, I get that but all new coaches in all sports usually use the "change the culture" talk. The culture isn't the issue, it's talent. Maybe coaching style to match that talent but that's yet to be seen. I think if Frank were to answer honestly about this he'd say it's much tougher than he thought it would be coming in. We will continue to struggle with recruiting and lose far more than we win. He needs to continue to land top in state talent. The Peak kid from Gaffney is one example. He was a long shot but those are the types that Spurrier kept a home and built much of our success around. We got 1, but we need many many more and they're far less common in SC HS BB.
He told Jim Rome on CBS Sports Radio the other day that it WAS tougher than he thought it was going to be. And yes, he does have to change the "culture" of USC basketball. Just look back on our 20+ years in the SEC.
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He told Jim Rome on CBS Sports Radio the other day that it WAS tougher than he thought it was going to be. And yes, he does have to change the "culture" of USC basketball. Just look back on our 20+ years in the SEC.
Ok great, he answered honestly something that we all already should know. Again, the culture change is just coach talk for it's a work in process. The way to change culture is to stop sucking and win. May take him longer than he thinks and even longer than he's given time for. Who knows? I hope it's next year but I wouldn't bet on it right now.
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This team needs major changes. I don't want to hear any sunshine pumpers pointing to that FLUKE game on Sunday as some kind of sign that things are okay as they are an they will naturally get better with a little more practice because that is complete BS.
Maybe you should take some time to understand how college basketball works. Yes, the Gamecocks need more talent, but more than talent they need experience and leadership. Our team is too young. When your talent doesn't surpass your youth, this is the type of team you get. I still don't get how people are getting mad at this team for losing to teams who they're supposed to lose to. Did you expect the Gamecocks to be Final 4 Contenders?

I'm not worried at all. Sindarius and Notice is a nice duo on the wings to build around, Chatkevicius is starting to figure it out, Stroman is coming next season and we still have a chance of adding Dozier or Woods to the mix. This team plays hard, is defending better (minus last night with Frazier) and competes every game.
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