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Old 03-07-2014, 05:12 PM   #21
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Default Re: Frank Martin news conference at 2:45

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It kind of sounded like he was trying to bring up the fact that he is Hispanic to make people feel sorry for him.
I didn't take that comment that way. It seemed to be more of the responsibility he feels as minority (read: latino) coach in the premier college athletics conference, and owning the fact that he is paving the way for others to follow him.

But this whole thing is crap. All these thin-skinned ass people need to get a grip. Hell, the Pope cusses and steals so now what?!

I like Franks fire and enthusiasm and the same people who cuss the athletes when in the privacy of their own home take issue with him cussing one face to face.... Pot meet kettle
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It kind of sounded like he was trying to bring up the fact that he is Hispanic to make people feel sorry for him.
I really took it for face value. That there are not a lot of Hispanic coaches and he feels he should set a better example.
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I missed his opening comments but Im listening to the Q&A with reporters.

Heres the paraphrasing

-He basically said he was grateful for Tanner to be his boss and that this issue was self inflicted
-He thinks its time for himself to mature
-I care too much about my players, and I need them as much as they need me
-I embarrassed my family, specifically mentioned wife and mother
-(asked what happens if this happens again) we didnt discuss that and if it does Martin is the only one to blame
-He doesnt think his attitude negatively impacts recruiting
-said it needs to be clear that he is wrong and this is his fault
-he says he works at the university and he understands he has a duty to conduct himself a certain way
-I dont let my players swear, if they swear in my presence Im not happy
-I ask my players to mature, I need to mature too
-I cant do anything else other than apologize
Admitting there is a problem is the first step to correcting the problem. Good for Coach Martin.
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I didn't take that comment that way. It seemed to be more of the responsibility he feels as minority (read: latino) coach in the premier college athletics conference, and owning the fact that he is paving the way for others to follow him.

But this whole thing is crap. All these thin-skinned ass people need to get a grip. Hell, the Pope cusses and steals so now what?!

I like Franks fire and enthusiasm and the same people who cuss the athletes when in the privacy of their own home take issue with him cussing one face to face.... Pot meet kettle
I went back and watched the video after listening to it on the radio and I completely agree with you. He feels a great responsibility to represent other people of Hispanic descent in a positive way because he is one of the few that has actually become a D-1 college coach.
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He apologized, he was grilled about things unrelated to the university (family) and he handled it in the right manner. I have made mistakes and been forgiven for too many things to not accept this as a learning tool for coach Martin and move on. Now lets build on this team and win some games.
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It kind of sounded like he was trying to bring up the fact that he is Hispanic to make people feel sorry for him.
Well you do know they have quite the temper.


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He over apologized. I could only listen to 9 of the 24 agonizing minutes. Me thinks he protesteth too muchess. He laid it on too thicketh. A zebra can't change its stripes. Geez! These phonies in our universities make me sick.
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I like Frank and I hope this is behind us soon because I think he is really building something. With that said, the "I care too much" comment really caused me to roll my eyes. I mean come on. I'm sure he didn't mean it this way, but it sounded as if he was trying to excuse his behavior because "he cares". That is lame. Overall though, I thought it was a good presser and hopefully he can get back to the business at hand...building a winner.
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Or blindly follow a coach who disrespects the game, its players, and fans.
I could not disagree more. Martin respects the game and his players and cares so much about his players that it gets to the point where it boils over. Ask anyone that works around him or plays for him and they will tell you that they love him and that he cares very much about his players and their growth and has a lot of respect for the players and the game. But you assume that from the 10 second clips you see of him going bananas that he doesn't respect the game or the players. I will gladly follow Frank Martin, as will our players. They will all run through a brick wall for the man. I can say this, it sure is nice to have a coach that cares that goes after players and wants them to improve and mature as much as he does to the point where it's obsessive as opposed to Darrin Horn, who it appeared that we were boring him during the game. He would sit there with his hand over his mouth and do nothing. Everyone knew Martin was like this and knew it would take time to build this program. Don't tell me you didn't know he was like this. Everyone loved this hire and knew it would take time to build a program. Now he acts the way that you knew he would and you want to run him off at the first sign of progress. If you people that hate him so much, I'll be interested to hear your opinion when we start winning.
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I don't care how much he curses. I don't think he has a "problem." SOME people have a problem with him and what he does. I'm not one of those. I'm going to just leave it at that.
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If you people that hate him so much, I'll be interested to hear your opinion when we start winning.
So its our fault? Its all about us huh? So if he wins we will be ok with him going gonzo on his players? Its only because he's 3-14 that we don't like him going nuts? Ever heard the expression "garnet colored glasses"? You need to take yours off once in a while.
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Guess we had quite a few angels posting in these two Frank Martin threads.

'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.'
I would but my aim sucks.
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I enlisted in the Marine Corps at age 18, heard more heated and awlful language the first 24 hours than Martin even knows! By the age of 20 I was Vietnam and fighting for my life and as a Sgt. I knew all those words myself. I know it is not the same as a college kid PLAYING bb, so spare me. My point is that the Marines get your attention the first 24 hours and they will prepare you for what you will face later. I am grateful for what they taught me and that I was able to lead my men with confidence, knowing that we would win.
I played FB and BB in high school both in SC and in Calif....and if you did you probably heard much of what Coach Martin said. Point being it is not what we want our coach to be saying/acting on TV, but it happens everyday at many places. Get over it. We offered the job to other coaches before Martin, and even before when we were looking. have you forgotten just how many said "no thanks"? Give him a second chance. He will either chance or we will change him, whatever the case, stop acting like he needs to go because he cusses. If he were winning 20 games or more instead of 11, you would not find fault with his mouth.
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The issue is two fold. One, he can't attack an individual player on a personal basis in the presence of the public, tv or otherwise. Getting in a players ass is different than demeaning him. Secondly, these outburst show a lack of personal control that he alluded to in his PC. You can't ask players to be under control when you can't control how you speak to them yourself.

As good of a coach as I think he is, if this doesn't get corrected, he will see players leave, and he will not be able to recruit. Kids will not want to be subjected to that kind of public abuse.
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I enlisted in the Marine Corps at age 18, heard more heated and awlful language the first 24 hours than Martin even knows! By the age of 20 I was Vietnam and fighting for my life and as a Sgt. I knew all those words myself. I know it is not the same as a college kid PLAYING bb, so spare me. My point is that the Marines get your attention the first 24 hours and they will prepare you for what you will face later. I am grateful for what they taught me and that I was able to lead my men with confidence, knowing that we would win.
I played FB and BB in high school both in SC and in Calif....and if you did you probably heard much of what Coach Martin said. Point being it is not what we want our coach to be saying/acting on TV, but it happens everyday at many places. Get over it. We offered the job to other coaches before Martin, and even before when we were looking. have you forgotten just how many said "no thanks"? Give him a second chance. He will either chance or we will change him, whatever the case, stop acting like he needs to go because he cusses. If he were winning 20 games or more instead of 11, you would not find fault with his mouth.
Guess you think Ray Tanner needs to "get over it" too. After all, this is the corps.
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It kind of sounded like he was trying to bring up the fact that he is Hispanic to make people feel sorry for him.

Is that your first reaction when you find out someone's Hispanic? Sympathy?
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The marines think they are God's gift to mankind. I hate being around them. Pretty obnoxious dudes.
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I played FB...in high school.
So did I...a long time ago. Our coaches kicked our butts and cussed....but didn't call us names and verbally attack us.
The fact that you and others can't tell the difference is disturbing. So are you telling us you'd approve of a highly paid coach repeatedly calling your kid and azz___ in front of thousands of fans?

And what some of you seem to be missing, is some people were raised in abusive environments....and consequently have low tolerance for such as adults. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being decent enough to not be abusive.
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I went back and watched the video after listening to it on the radio and I completely agree with you. He feels a great responsibility to represent other people of Hispanic descent in a positive way because he is one of the few that has actually become a D-1 college coach.
you made a mistake about what you thought he ment... that being said we need to just let you go... you might come in here again and do something like that again, and disrespect the entire messageboard, it's posters, and all the gamecock images to my right. Sorry but for all the previous great posts you have made... in this thread, we can not accept such things.
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