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Old 03-08-2014, 01:55 PM   #401
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I don't want to come off anything but curious here but why do you think Frank Martin screaming obscenities and demeaning his players in the middle of a half full arena on national TV is fine...my word not yours...in the name of 'discipline/motivation' but his employer and boss addressing his behavior and holding him accountable related to his lack of discipline, self-control and an already addressed and ongoing issue is something you don't 'agree' with?

This goes for anybody here...why is what Martin doing so awesome and productive and yet what his boss/employer doing so outrageous?

No one wants to win more than the University, donors and AD...we currently have the #1 Baseball and Equestrian teams in the country, our women's B-ball team just won the SEC and is ranked #5, our Football team finished #4 and so on and so on. We are building and improving more of our facilities than at any point in the schools history. Everything is working...accept men's B-ball where we are ranked somewhere in the mid to late hundreds.

Seriously...How is the school and the job they are doing being questioned and attacked over the coach of the worse performing team in the athletic department?

What has he done that we are all supposed to chose his way over the University of South Carolina's way?

It doesn't compute...anyone?
No, I do not agree that he should be suspended for those actions and think it is hypocritical to do so, fine him but do not punish the other kids for Notice making a mistake and Martin pointing it out $%^hole. Just kidding but do you think I should be suspended from this board if I was not kidding? I do not think it s fine to call you an $%^hole but it is a word and in the heat of a game it was a passionate coach pointing out in a stern manner that Notice let the coach, the fans and his teammates down. If this was a closed scrimmage, no fans, just coaches and teammates and it was caught on camera it would not be a huge deal, no suspension, none of this crap and that is hypocritical but I understand this PC world.
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Think we have to worry more about Roy Williams for both PJ and Seventh. I agree with what you're saying though.
I mean it's just the first name I could come up with to make a point.
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So I spoke with a walk-on for the basketball team last night who played under Horn and Martin. As you can imagine, he said Martin was a MUCH better coach than Horn by the way he ran his practices and in games. He said the players liked Martin much more than Horn and have always respected and admired Martin. He said this kind of thing with Notice is not a big deal as it happens quite often, yet the players understand and still want to play for him and get better under him.
Wait, you mean the fans that say they can see how much the players hate playing for Frank are wrong?!?!!? I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED!
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I don't want to come off anything but curious here but why do you think Frank Martin screaming obscenities and demeaning his players in the middle of a half full arena on national TV is fine...my word not yours...in the name of 'discipline/motivation' but his employer and boss addressing his behavior and holding him accountable related to his lack of discipline, self-control and an already addressed and ongoing issue is something you don't 'agree' with?

This goes for anybody here...why is what Martin doing so awesome and productive and yet what his boss/employer doing so outrageous?

No one wants to win more than the University, donors and AD...we currently have the #1 Baseball and Equestrian teams in the country, our women's B-ball team just won the SEC and is ranked #5, our Football team finished #4 and so on and so on. We are building and improving more of our facilities than at any point in the schools history. Everything is working...accept men's B-ball where we are ranked somewhere in the mid to late hundreds.

Seriously...How is the school and the job they are doing being questioned and attacked over the coach of the worse performing team in the athletic department?

What has he done that we are all supposed to chose his way over the University of South Carolina's way?

It doesn't compute...anyone?
Well we can leave out the 30+ years of coaching experience from high school all the way to his elite eight appearance in the NCAA tournament. Then we can leave out the elite coaches he's had the privilege of coaching under. While we're at it, let's leave out that this unsuccessful team is dealing with more youth than it should have to rely on, and is missing Ty Johnson half the season, one of the only veteran players on the team and one of the few true ball handlers. So now what we have is a frustrated Martin who is probably aware of the idiot fans we have already calling for his job. And then we have people like you that want to make things worse by saying it's ok for the AD and fans to interfere with him doing his job just because he does something that he's been doing for 30 years!
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The team seemed to play not as tight today.
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The team seemed to play not as tight today.
We also played a team that has just as many problems as us.
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Does Frank have to forfeit a portion of his salary for the suspension....if so, how much.
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Coach Martin has been here for 2 years....This hasn't happened before, to my knowledge. And if so, there was no need to have a press conference. Let Coach Martin and D. Notice square it with each other, let coach sit back and relax for one game, and leave it at that.

That being said, these guys are lucky they aint "pleibes" at a service academy. By now they would have been called all manner of things worse than dog crap, or dumb***.


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this whole thing would never have come up if ESPN hadn't had the camera on him when he said it....
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The team seemed to play not as tight today.
No they just played another horrible team.

Not to mention they made only 50% of their free throws. Fouled a TON. and Turned the ball over 15 times.
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Well we can leave out the 30+ years of coaching experience from high school all the way to his elite eight appearance in the NCAA tournament. Then we can leave out the elite coaches he's had the privilege of coaching under. While we're at it, let's leave out that this unsuccessful team is dealing with more youth than it should have to rely on, and is missing Ty Johnson half the season, one of the only veteran players on the team and one of the few true ball handlers. So now what we have is a frustrated Martin who is probably aware of the idiot fans we have already calling for his job. And then we have people like you that want to make things worse by saying it's ok for the AD and fans to interfere with him doing his job just because he does something that he's been doing for 30 years!
You seemed to have left out all sorts of beyond obvious and well documented reasons he absolutely needs someone constantly watching and checking up on him and re-explaining what the rules are and how a university works etc.

And you also seem to have decided to not explain who exactly this 'elite' coach he learned how to run a college program from actually is or his history or the history of the constant issues Frank has been a part of for the better part of this 30 years of 'experience' of needing supervision.

Would you like for me to list and address them for you here?

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All this talk isn't going to change a thing. He's served his suspension. He's addressed the media, faced the tough questions, said the right stuff. Now all we can do is wait and see if he can fix his issues.

What more needs to be said? How much longer can we beat this dead horse?
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All this talk isn't going to change a thing. He's served his suspension. He's addressed the media, faced the tough questions, said the right stuff. Now all we can do is wait and see if he can fix his issues.

What more needs to be said? How much longer can we beat this dead horse?
The beating of a dead horse would be awfu to witness in reality. Oh, were you using a metaphor? I see what you did there.
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Well we can leave out the 30+ years of coaching experience from high school all the way to his elite eight appearance in the NCAA tournament. Then we can leave out the elite coaches he's had the privilege of coaching under. While we're at it, let's leave out that this unsuccessful team is dealing with more youth than it should have to rely on, and is missing Ty Johnson half the season, one of the only veteran players on the team and one of the few true ball handlers. So now what we have is a frustrated Martin who is probably aware of the idiot fans we have already calling for his job. And then we have people like you that want to make things worse by saying it's ok for the AD and fans to interfere with him doing his job just because he does something that he's been doing for 30 years!


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Does Frank have to forfeit a portion of his salary for the suspension....if so, how much.
Most likely suspended with pay.
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And why does that even matter? Are you writing out his pay checks?
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The team seemed to play not as tight today.
Why do people keep saying this?

Look, if you want to watch "loose" basketball, go watch the Darrin Horn Era and tell me how much you enjoyed it. Frank goes overboard with his emotions sometimes, but he's trying to teach these kids how to play winning basketball.

Big whoop, we beat Mississippi State. The one team in the SEC that's probably worse than us.
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You seemed to have left out all sorts of beyond obvious and well documented reasons he absolutely needs someone constantly watching and checking up on him and re-explaining what the rules are and how a university works etc.

And you also seem to have decided to not explain who exactly this 'elite' coach he learned how to run a college program from actually is or his history or the history of the constant issues Frank has been a part of for the better part of this 30 years of 'experience' of needing supervision.

Would you like for me to list and address them for you here?
Please go right ahead.
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Why do people keep saying this?

Look, if you want to watch "loose" basketball, go watch the Darrin Horn Era and tell me how much you enjoyed it. Frank goes overboard with his emotions sometimes, but he's trying to teach these kids how to play winning basketball.

Big whoop, we beat Mississippi State. The one team in the SEC that's probably worse than us.
It's a knock on Frank because we have fans that want to complain about losing but not let a coach do his job.
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It's not whining. I'm stating facts that no one else seems to want to take into account. We're playing guys out of position, or that aren't ready to take on full time minutes at point. Thornwell and Notice continually turn it over. We have had a tough break. It's been a frustrating year for the fans and for the coaching staff and players. Not everything always goes your way, but when you have your fan base turning on you for a stupid reason, it makes the job that much harder.
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I wish people would leave Frank alone and let him build the basketball program. He understands he has some flaws (who doesn't), and he is working to try to fix them. USC has a history of making bad decisions with the men's basketball program. I sure hope they don't add another one by running Frank Martin off.
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