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Old 03-10-2014, 08:29 PM   #261
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Stupid move.
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Really disappointing that Smith won't finish in Carolina.
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Default Re: ***2014 Carolina Panthers offseason/draft/season thread***

Sounds like cats would owe Smitty 3 mil if they cut him before july 1 which would save 4 mil in cap.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...on-to-cut-him/

Outside of the $ the early word is that it's also about locker room dynamics. Coaches and GM are ready for 1 & 59 to be the vocal leadership on the team.
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:10 PM   #264
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Can't support this move. Gutting the heart & soul of the team. Turrible.
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:43 PM   #265
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:46 PM   #266
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agreed.....i dont see this as terrible of a move everyone else does, as long as we use that excess money from the move to find a replacement

i know im in the minority here and would hate to watch Smith leave but it might be best in the long run
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agreed.....i dont see this as terrible of a move everyone else does, as long as we use that excess money from the move to find a replacement

i know im in the minority here and would hate to watch Smith leave but it might be best in the long run
I'm not gonna freak out about it. I'm just gonna wait and see what DG does with the money. We need 2WRs badly.
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agreed.....i dont see this as terrible of a move everyone else does, as long as we use that excess money from the move to find a replacement

i know im in the minority here and would hate to watch Smith leave but it might be best in the long run
Could definitely be good in the long run. This might all but guarantee a WR pick in the first round if the right guy is there.
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:12 PM   #269
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I'm fine with it. Smith was past his prime anyways.
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I'm fine with it. Smith was past his prime anyways.

I will say, i hate the Patriots.....but if he landed there we might see some of that prime come back

Before cam got here and we were about to trade him I was secretly hoping to see that deal worked bc smith would then get the national attention he deserved and he would make ppl forget welker in a heartbeat


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Old 03-10-2014, 10:47 PM   #271
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It's tough for me to get behind this move as Smith is my favorite Panther. I guess we have to see what comes of it.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:01 PM   #272
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Can't support this move. Gutting the heart & soul of the team. Turrible.
I wouldn't say I don't support it, but I don't like it. Agree that Smitty brings the fire ("Better ice up, son!"). But this is a long-term decision, and I'm giving Gettleman the benefit of the doubt, that he's got a plan to get some playmakers at wideout.
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Terrible decision by Gettlemen. I guess the plan is to have Cam play QB and WR.

Hopefully Smitty gets a ring wherever he goes.

And if they can't trade him, which is likely considering his contract and Gettlemen cuts him...the Panthers save $1 million and that's it.
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Terrible decision by Gettlemen. I guess the plan is to have Cam play QB and WR.

Hopefully Smitty gets a ring wherever he goes.

And if they can't trade him, which is likely considering his contract and Gettlemen cuts him...the Panthers save $1 million and that's it.
I was under the impression that the Panthers would have $3 million in dead money they would be eating by cutting Smith but would still save $4 million against the cap since he was owed $7 million this year. If they can acquire some good WRs in FA and the draft it is a solid move.
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Let's be honest, even if Smith did stay, how many more years does he really have left in him? I predict Smith to retire within in the next couple of years.
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Let's be honest, even if Smith did stay, how many more years does he really have left in him? I predict Smith to retire within in the next couple of years.

This is why this move is being made, he has 2014 and 2015 in his contract, with a cap hit that is no where near his level of production, he also has a player option for the 2016 season

So everyone upset about the savings this year needs to look at those last two seasons, btw during those seasons we have to resign cam and Luke....I'll take them over a 37 year old wr


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I was under the impression that the Panthers would have $3 million in dead money they would be eating by cutting Smith but would still save $4 million against the cap since he was owed $7 million this year. If they can acquire some good WRs in FA and the draft it is a solid move.
That's how I understood it too.

I could have misunderstood what I read and heard though nice NFL contracts are complicated as hell.
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^^^^^

I just read something else that said if we cut him this year before June 1 then Smith gets 3 million from the team at 6 million cap hit this saving only 1 million this season. No dead $ next year.

If we cut after July we save 4 million this year but have 6 million in dead money in 2015.
-plus it's a shitty thing to do to Smith (seem they are trying to give him plenty of time to get in with a team and go through OTAs)
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I was under the impression that the Panthers would have $3 million in dead money they would be eating by cutting Smith but would still save $4 million against the cap since he was owed $7 million this year.
You're correct...I misread it.

My question....who is going to catch the ball this season for us? The other WR's we have suck and the free agency market isn't that good....Nicks, Rice, etc.
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You're correct...I misread it.

My question....who is going to catch the ball this season for us? The other WR's we have suck and the free agency market isn't that good....Nicks, Rice, etc.
I just looked up his stats from last year. He only caught 64 balls for 745 yds. and only scored 4 times. The yardage total didn't even put him in the top 40 in the league. Shocking to me as it seemed he was more productive than that.

However, he and Olsen were our best receivers.

I don't really like having to move him but he's about to be 35 so it will eventually have to happen. If they move him, we don't have a #1 or really a #2 receiver as Lafell is probably a #3.
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