***2014 Carolina Panthers offseason/draft/season thread***

[uscfreek88]

Originally Posted by Gamecocks321

My God there are so many whiners over on the Huddle.

and there are none here.......

all i read when Hurney was GM here was how terrible he was and how he was just giving away big contracts to ppl that dont deserve them

we hire a relative no name for GM.....ppl pissed about that.....GM goes out and signs a bunch of "rejects" to 1 year deals....ppl pissed about that.....and all they do is go out and produce

now GM is still trying to recover from the mess that was left to him, which obv means tough decisions, and yet everyone wants to whine about the fact that we cut a 35 year old WR who was overpaid.........sheesh

i almost wish the fans would get their way and when it comes to resigning to two faces of our franchise for the next decade, the fans will finally realize we dont have the cap space but we do still have a 37 year old WR

[theo_robbins]

Originally Posted by uscfreek88

and there are none here.......

all i read when Hurney was GM here was how terrible he was and how he was just giving away big contracts to ppl that dont deserve them

we hire a relative no name for GM.....ppl pissed about that.....GM goes out and signs a bunch of "rejects" to 1 year deals....ppl pissed about that.....and all they do is go out and produce

now GM is still trying to recover from the mess that was left to him, which obv means tough decisions, and yet everyone wants to whine about the fact that we cut a 35 year old WR who was overpaid.........sheesh

i almost wish the fans would get their way and when it comes to resigning to two faces of our franchise for the next decade, the fans will finally realize we dont have the cap space but we do still have a 37 year old WR

The thing I'm most upset about (besides being sad about Smitty leaving) is that we are getting rid of him for no real reason. He is still going to count $6 million against the cap, so we are really saving just $1 million here, right? Also, yeah, he was old, but he was by far our best WR last year, who do we have that's better? Who are we going to get that is better? We had our first good year (in forever) last year, and it seems like we are deciding to "rebuild" the offense as a followup, it's frustrating.

[usc90grad]

Originally Posted by robgusc76

A lot of his lack or production has to do with terrible play calling and the lack of a second receiver meaning Smith drew a lot of double coverage. Smith was the only big play receiver Carolina had, and he was an emotional receiver.

You can bill this as a business move all you want, but the fact that Gentlemen is going after Nicks, a receiver who he has a relationship with and honestly is a latteral move shows its much more than business. If the reports are true that the panthers never even tried to restructure, it was a personal move.

Bingo

[usc90grad]

With all these players leaving, it makes me wonder maybe Gettlemen is an ass towards all of them and not just Smith. Mass exodus.

[uscfreek88]

Originally Posted by theo_robbins

The thing I'm most upset about (besides being sad about Smitty leaving) is that we are getting rid of him for no real reason. He is still going to count $6 million against the cap, so we are really saving just $1 million here, right? Also, yeah, he was old, but he was by far our best WR last year, who do we have that's better? Who are we going to get that is better? We had our first good year (in forever) last year, and it seems like we are deciding to "rebuild" the offense as a followup, it's frustrating.

What about the cap hits his contract would have in 2015 and potentially 2016? Everyone just seems to not want to mention that

We were rebuilding last year, and we just had a good year, with the mess that gm was left with, tough decisions had to be made and he made them

This is the deepest wr draft in a long time and there still good FAs out there....if we still have Wrs like we do now when season starts then I will be upset.....but until then I will wait and see


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[Spurrier_Superior_One]

^10 million in 2015 and 12 million in 2016. Smitty as much as I love him ain't worth that kind of money anymore

[ccured]

Smith is a diva plain and simple. He is not a good for the locker room when things don't go his way. He is the best player in franchise history but that's just it, history. This had to be done for the future of the organization. Cam and Luke have to be the leaders going forward. His comments today about how there will be blood and guts all over the field next time proved he has no clue when to shut his mouth. He had good parting comments and had to keep running his mouth. He is one of those guys that fans love because his "fire" but everyone else gets tired of his act.

[uscGRAD04]

Originally Posted by Spurrier_Superior_One

$15 million for 3 years, Captain was supposedly in tears about wanting to stay in Carolina.

Good luck Cap covering Megatron, Marshall and Alshon.

[Spurrier_Superior_One]

Originally Posted by uscGRAD04

Good luck Cap covering Megatron, Marshall and Alshon.

He is going to get absolutely smoked.

[gamecockphan]

Originally Posted by ccured

Smith is a diva plain and simple. He is not a good for the locker room when things don't go his way. He is the best player in franchise history but that's just it, history. This had to be done for the future of the organization. Cam and Luke have to be the leaders going forward. His comments today about how there will be blood and guts all over the field next time proved he has no clue when to shut his mouth. He had good parting comments and had to keep running his mouth. He is one of those guys that fans love because his "fire" but everyone else gets tired of his act.

You're not putting any context to his comments. Did you even listen to the interview? It was a joke when he said it. He chuckled after he said it. He was very complimentary ton the team, Richardsons, fans, and city.

[ccured]

Originally Posted by gamecockphan

You're not putting any context to his comments. Did you even listen to the interview? It was a joke when he said it. He chuckled after he said it. He was very complimentary ton the team, Richardsons, fans, and city.

Then I apologize I only read them. There was not any note of jest. He was complimentary that is why I said he went to far. Sorry if I was wrong

[Spurrier_Superior_One]

Originally Posted by ccured

Then I apologize I only read them. There was not any note of jest. He was complimentary that is why I said he went to far. Sorry if I was wrong

Smitty loves Big Cat and his wife, the Panthers, and the fans, his beef and rightly so is with Gettleman.

[Gamecocks321]

There is this one guy on the Huddle that GUARANTEES that we will trade up for Sammy Watkins. Most likely BS, but interesting.

[Gamecocks321]

Apparently, Seattle will most likely resign Sidney Rice and with the news that the Panthers are not interested in Nicks, I have no idea what GM has up his sleeve. Getting a tad bit worried.

[gamecockphan]

Originally Posted by ccured

Then I apologize I only read them. There was not any note of jest. He was complimentary that is why I said he went to far. Sorry if I was wrong

That's understandable. Twitter and the media really played up the comments w/o context so it's easy to view them as hostile instead of as a joke.

[Spurrier_Superior_One]

Originally Posted by Gamecocks321

Apparently, Seattle will most likely resign Sidney Rice and with the news that the Panthers are not interested in Nicks, I have no idea what GM has up his sleeve. Getting a tad bit worried.

We will probably resign Brandon LaFail as our #1 WR.

[Gamecocks321]

Originally Posted by Spurrier_Superior_One

We will probably resign Brandon LaFail as our #1 WR.

[Cockyktm]

Originally Posted by Spurrier_Superior_One

We will probably resign Brandon LaFail as our #1 WR.

That's if we are lucky

[jch81]

Originally Posted by Gamecocks321

There is this one guy on the Huddle that GUARANTEES that we will trade up for Sammy Watkins. Most likely BS, but interesting.

IF the Panthers could get Nicks and Watkins somehow that would be great. Not likely though. I just don't see the Panthers moving up that much to get him. I wish they would though lol

[FearThethumbandDJ]

Originally Posted by jch81

IF the Panthers could get Nicks and Watkins somehow that would be great. Not likely though. I just don't see the Panthers moving up that much to get him. I wish they would though lol

Why would we move up to take dropkins.