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Yes, an assumption, but not an unreasonable one.



You never let the inmates run the lunatic asylum.

I guess we should say the same about all employees of every company?
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It is an ASSUMPTION that schools will close up sports from this ruling. Period.
It's an educated opinion based on economics and universities statements.


If we are going with your pointless statement, than your whole everything will work out is an assumption. I guess we might as well stop talking about anything on cockytalk, since it's all opinions.
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Well that means those in the union will have to pay union DUES. LMFAO.

Only if the union imposes DUES

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Yes. That's why there are supervisors. Commmunism has never worked for a reason.
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They're just going to have to get over it.

People are also unhappy that Walmart employees "don't get paid enough"

That is between walmart and their employees.

But what if we can't afford what other teams are promising their recruits? You think a recruit is going to take a lower paying job, I wouldn't, why should they?
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It's an educated opinion based on economics and universities statements.





If we are going with your pointless statement, than your whole everything will work out is an assumption. I guess we might as well stop talking about anything on cockytalk, since it's all opinions.

I'm an optimist. You're a pessimist (though, as is the case with nearly all pessimists, you'll say you're a realist).

I'm taking into consideration that MONEY FINDS A WAY.

Just as with business, universities won't just "fold" instead they will ADAPT.

We have a LOT of examples in the business world of regulations and laws that were passed that were predicted to be the end of businesses, only to find that businesses adapt.

Face it- entrepreneurs are more innovative than you are.
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But what if we can't afford what other teams are promising their recruits? You think a recruit is going to take a lower paying job, I wouldn't, why should they?

How is that any different than what we face now? Bama takes the pick of the litter, but there is still roster limits.

They can't literally take every single player worth a damn.
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The ones who really suffer are golf, tennis, track, softball, etc the ones who actually are getting an education may not have that chance because some half witted imbecile can prepare themselves for the NFL has to get paid in college.
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Yes. That's why there are supervisors. Commmunism has never worked for a reason.

LOL so I guess that, since workers were able to get new laws passed to ensure fair employment practices, then that equates to "inmates running the asylum"

Again- y'all need to divest yourselves emotionally.
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I'm an optimist. You're a pessimist (though, as is the case with nearly all pessimists, you'll say you're a realist).

I'm taking into consideration that MONEY FINDS A WAY.

Just as with business, universities won't just "fold" instead they will ADAPT.

We have a LOT of examples in the business world of regulations and laws that were passed that were predicted to be the end of businesses, only to find that businesses adapt.

Face it- entrepreneurs are more innovative than you are.
Obviously you don't know much about business. When something becomes more expensive or more of a hassle than profit it creates, business get rid of them. That's what will happen here. Let's face it, you have no clue and are just being hopeful.
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The ones who really suffer are golf, tennis, track, softball, etc the ones who actually are getting an education may not have that chance because some half witted imbecile can prepare themselves for the NFL has to get paid in college.

Oh wow. Now everyone who plays football is a half witted imbecile. But you? Since you played some minor sport at an even "more" minor school (can't wait for you to remind us about how your directional school beat the Yardcocks that one time in a midweek game!) suddenly you're a champion for those downtrodden individuals.
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But on a side note it doesn't surprise me one damn bit that this mess started in Chitown.
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Obviously you don't know much about business. When something becomes more expensive or more of a hassle than profit it creates, business get rid of them. That's what will happen here. Let's face it, you have no clue and are just being hopeful.

Again- businesses aren't defeatist losers, like you.

They will ADAPT. Things will change. There's not a damn thing you can do about it.

The difference between me and you on this subject is that I'm not pitching a bitch fit.
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Oh wow. Now everyone who plays football is a half witted imbecile. But you? Since you played some minor sport at an even "more" minor school (can't wait for you to remind us about how your directional school beat the Yardcocks that one time in a midweek game!) suddenly you're a champion for those downtrodden individuals.
Except it was basketball, not baseball at least get your facts straight. Do I need to bring up Upstate is 1-0 against Kentucky in baseball this year and they were ranked when be beat them. I believe in the concept of STUDENT-athletes that student comes first and athlete comes second and they should remain amateur, the NCAA isn't the problem if you want to fix the problem go get pissy at the NFL who is denying high school players the right to go pro out of high school.
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Except it was basketball, not baseball at least get your facts straight. Do I need to bring up Upstate is 1-0 against Kentucky in baseball this year ?

Bring it up all you want, it only shows your ignorance on the dynamics of college baseball (non conference midweek games are different than conference weekend games due to bigger schools throwing better pitchers on the weekend)
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Bring it up all you want, it only shows your ignorance on the dynamics of college baseball (non conference midweek games are different than conference weekend games due to bigger schools throwing better pitchers on the weekend)
So you are sitting there actually believing the players don't care they lost? Only losers would defend losing, that's why they are on the field and you are sitting in the stands they are winners you are a loser. You play to win the game.
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So you are sitting there actually believing the players don't care they lost? Only losers would defend losing, that's why they are on the field and you are sitting in the stands they are winners you are a loser. You play to win the game.

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You'd actually be wrong. Most HS sports fundraise to support their sport and then all the gates from games are taken by the schools. A typical homecoming game for our team brings in 20k. Do you not think that would be nice for the kids to have? Also if you go to Texas those HS are bringing in millions of dollars. So it is the same concept you just ignore it.


To those who ask why it's the end of college football. Many schools will cancel athletics since the business model will no longer create a profit. It's pretty simple. I also hope you guys are ok with removing an avenue that was proving opportunities for low income students to get top level educations.


The universities have more to do with why theses teams bring in money not the athletes. If it was just about having good athletes, minor league baseball and D league basketball would bring it as much as college sports.


If this ruling stands, these idiots will have gone out and killed the golden goose, well done folks.
i would love to believe you.....but i dont b/c i know most schools do not make money off of HS athletics
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For now, the push is to unionize athletes at private schools, such as Northwestern, because the federal labor agency does not have jurisdiction over public universities

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For now, the push is to unionize athletes at private schools, such as Northwestern, because the federal labor agency does not have jurisdiction over public universities

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now that would be an interesting competitive advantage

why would someone go play for Bama or UF and not get paid when they could get a better education and get paid to go play for a private school....SoCal will be back on top
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