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Old 03-30-2014, 08:45 PM   #21
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Default Re: Merril Hoge talks a TON of trash about Clowney's skill

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Get the garnet glasses off Goofy.
I am an admitted Gamecock and Clowney fan. I have, however, over the years not been hesitant to be critical of poor play and mistakes by players and coaches. Nothing you said refutes my contention that the main critic and the others were wrong about Clowney's bench numbers and that they stated critical opinions as facts. As far as the tone of the article, my view is that it was hyper-critical and overly negative. I don't recall anything that loaded being leveled at any draft prospect before.
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Default Re: Merril Hoge talks a TON of trash about Clowney's skill

People were saying similar things about Alshon last year. We saw what happened with that. Some of these analysts truly have no clue what they're talking about.
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Default Re: Merril Hoge talks a TON of trash about Clowney's skill

Meh, Hoge just tryin to get publicity. Saying dumb things is the fastest way to do that.
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Default Re: Merril Hoge talks a TON of trash about Clowney's skill

Merril's always been full of himself for one thing. He used to babysit (long ago) one of my friends who grew up in Boise with Hoge. Friend said he's always thought highly of himself. Also post concussion syndrome is really hitting Hoge hard these days. Seriously. The guy sued the Bears years back and won for multiple concussions. That tells you his brain isn't working right. There's also a good reason Hoge is just another talking head in the studio and not an NFL GM-not qualified nor fit for the job. I bet Mack disappears on a roster somewhere within no time. He's just the flavor of the month before draft day.
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Everything I've seen or heard about Mack has been in the other direction - that he's going to be an impact player because of the multiple skills and assets he has. I doubt he would be the force on defense that Clowney will likely be, but he showed good speed and numbers at the combine to go with his great size and good season.
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Everything I've seen or heard about Mack has been in the other direction - that he's going to be an impact player because of the multiple skills and assets he has. I doubt he would be the force on defense that Clowney will likely be, but he showed good speed and numbers at the combine to go with his great size and good season.
You may be right. Maybe I shouldn't dog on Mack though I don't think he's faced the talent Clowney's dominated (Mack did tear it up against OSU) and he's had a severe knee injury. Back to my original point regarding Hoge, anybody thats trashing Clowney's skills or talent is clueless. You can also praise Mack without trashing Clowney.
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I guess we will see if MH is right or JC proves him wrong.
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Old 03-30-2014, 10:05 PM   #28
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You may be right. Maybe I shouldn't dog on Mack though I don't think he's faced the talent Clowney's dominated (Mack did tear it up against OSU) and he's had a severe knee injury. Back to my original point regarding Hoge, anybody thats trashing Clowney's skills or talent is clueless. You can also praise Mack without trashing Clowney.
I also think you can criticize Clowney without trashing him. Hoge's comments were unsupported trashing. Clowney's numbers dropped this year for a number of reasons. I saw him whiff a couple of times on sacks - and after the games he mentioned it himself. Missing the Ky game because of an injury got him a bunch of grief, but it was obvious to me how his presence was missed during the game. I still don't think he should have played and risk not playing against a better opponent. Every coach on Carolina's staff will tell you that Clowney's numbers this year were only a part of his impact.
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Default Re: Merril Hoge talks a TON of trash about Clowney's skill

There is no doubt that Clowney will be a top first round pick. When he gets to the NFL, with the right line coach, he will be more a more disciplined player. No more coaches who are in awe of their star. The right coach will be tough on him and Clowney will live up to the hype. He knows the world is watching him and he will prove these pundits wrong. They will just go on to the next player to assault. It's all about sensationalism and ratings with these guys.
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Clowney will be a first rounder, no doubt. I think I'd like to see him go first just bc he played for Carolina, not that my vote counted anyway. But then I realized it's probably best that he doesn't get drafted first, couple that with all the naysaying by commentators/analysts and maybe he falls to a team that really needs him and he plays with a chip on his shoulder. All this 1st Pick of the Draft talk will follow him his entire career, he's not even in the league yet and I'm sure he's tired of having to comment on it. Regardless of where he goes, I'm happy for him either way.
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:49 PM   #32
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Hoge spews more vitriolic hatred toward certain players than any announcer I've ever heard, and that's saying something.

He was going downright easy on Clowney compared to the way he used to tear into Tim Tebow, for example. You would have thought Tebow had raped and killed Hoge's entire family and made him watch based on the unrestrained rage of Hoge's criticisms.

It's just what the guy does. He ripped Johnny Manziel a new one just a couple of weeks ago.

There's usually some amount of truth in his criticisms, but he frequently crosses way WAY over the line to the point of being a frothing-at-the-mouth hateful prick.

The guy must have been a joy to be around as a teammate.
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Hoge spews more vitriolic hatred toward certain players than any announcer I've ever heard, and that's saying something.

He was going downright easy on Clowney compared to the way he used to tear into Tim Tebow, for example. You would have thought Tebow had raped and killed Hoge's entire family and made him watch based on the unrestrained rage of Hoge's criticisms.

It's just what the guy does. He ripped Johnny Manziel a new one just a couple of weeks ago.

There's usually some amount of truth in his criticisms, but he frequently crosses way WAY over the line to the point of being a frothing-at-the-mouth hateful prick.

The guy must have been a joy to be around as a teammate.
He is the complete opposite of John Gruden lol
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Old 03-31-2014, 12:25 PM   #35
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I vote we come back to this thread in about 2 years and as a group twitter bomb the hell out of Merril until he shrivels up into a little ball and cries himself into unemployment.
Agreed, bookmarked for future reference.
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Old 03-31-2014, 12:35 PM   #36
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Hoge is a complete dipsh!t. And yes, I have said that to

1.) ESPN
2.) Hoge's personal ESPN email account.

Being a health care professional it used to annoy the crap out of me when he used to talk about concussions on ESPN and say once a player show's signs of concussion he is "asymptomatic".

I took it upon myself to email ESPN and Mr. Hoge and educated both that "asymptomatic" means more or less - showing no signs. And if a player was showing signs of concussion, he would be "symptomatic". Interestingly enough, Hoge has since corrected his grammar but you can still find him talking like that on old clips.

I think he is a good guy though and being in the business he is in.....eventually he will say bad things about your team and/or your teams players. Just the nature of business....analysts will not agree with what you agree with 100% of the time. No biggie here as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 03-31-2014, 12:57 PM   #37
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Wonder if these guys bashing Jadeveon realize they are also criticizing the guys who coached him?

All things considered, Jadeveon handled things reasonably well for a 20 yr. old. I hope he can continue to just smile and go out and do his thing.
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This is the same dumbass who decided Johnny Manziel was a top 2 round pick, after seeing him throw is pads, while being chased with brooms at his pro day.....
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this is just a mircocosm of our society... media, fans etc love to build people up only to hope they fail and tear them back down
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I expect Clowney to make believers out of many.
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