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Old 04-25-2014, 02:31 PM   #41
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I have seen Connor rated 5-6th rounder, but his work ethic, smarts and character will move him higher.
Look at who is ahead of him and not just QBs. 6th-7th rd. is reasonable. I'd be elated with 5th rd! That would be a promising sign.
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So ATL has checked out Bruce, Clowney, and Shaw.
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So ATL has checked out Bruce, Clowney, and Shaw.
Bruce is needed in Charlotte. But I've always wondered why local players didn't seem to get higher priority with their local NFL team. How better for Atlanta to steal Carolina fans from Charlotte than to draft a bunch of our guys?
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I watched a thing about JM and how he wasnt NFL ready cause he dont play with structure. How he doesn't see open receivers and takes off running. Aka hes a run first throw second QB. And that really got me thinking. Cause thats what Shaw was his whole career here. Not taking anything away from Shaw. Obviously greatest QB in USC history. But i mean if their questioning Johnny's structure. Then i cant imagine what their sayin about Shaw.

Again not bashing Shaw. He won many games with his legs. But ya gotta call it like it is. Ya kno? his style of play doesnt translate well into the NFL and neither does JM. They comparred Russell Wilson and Johnny football. And how RW actually plays with ststructure. And doesnt run untill he has to or is a QB run play.

But imo the thing with Shaw is he will do whatever is asked of him or whatever he has to do. So if he does get picked i have faith he'll get it worked out. Wish him nothing but the best
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Bruce is needed in Charlotte. But I've always wondered why local players didn't seem to get higher priority with their local NFL team. How better for Atlanta to steal Carolina fans from Charlotte than to draft a bunch of our guys?

I believe that they try to be objective when drafting players in order to get players that will best help their team succeed.

All things being equal, the final deciding factor would likely be the local fans familiarization with the player as a homegrown favorite. Otherwise, they take the best overall players available or the player that best contributes to their team (potentially)
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I believe that they try to be objective when drafting players in order to get players that will best help their team succeed.

All things being equal, the final deciding factor would likely be the local fans familiarization with the player as a homegrown favorite. Otherwise, they take the best overall players available or the player that best contributes to their team (potentially)
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Bruce is needed in Charlotte. But I've always wondered why local players didn't seem to get higher priority with their local NFL team. How better for Atlanta to steal Carolina fans from Charlotte than to draft a bunch of our guys?
The Panthers have drafted Travelle Wharton, Captain, Norwood, a couple of other Gamecocks have been UDFAs and played or didn't make the cut. I would love to have Bruce in Charlotte. But the Panthers have NEVER drafted someone from that Big Orange School in the Upstate.
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I watched a thing about JM and how he wasnt NFL ready cause he dont play with structure. How he doesn't see open receivers and takes off running. Aka hes a run first throw second QB. And that really got me thinking. Cause thats what Shaw was his whole career here. Not taking anything away from Shaw. Obviously greatest QB in USC history. But i mean if their questioning Johnny's structure. Then i cant imagine what their sayin about Shaw.

Again not bashing Shaw. He won many games with his legs. But ya gotta call it like it is. Ya kno? his style of play doesnt translate well into the NFL and neither does JM. They comparred Russell Wilson and Johnny football. And how RW actually plays with ststructure. And doesnt run untill he has to or is a QB run play.

But imo the thing with Shaw is he will do whatever is asked of him or whatever he has to do. So if he does get picked i have faith he'll get it worked out. Wish him nothing but the best

Shaw made huge strides in passing game his senior year. I would not call him run first anymore. I think he was less of a free lancing gun slinger type than JM was in 2013.

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Are you a Gamecock fan?
He did make strides. He isnt a bad passer. At all. But he still didnt throw a lot. He only threw over 250 yards three times last year. And still thats not even a lot.

And of course i am. Why would i be here if i wasnt?
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:45 PM   #52
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None of them, Jacksonville in the 6th. They've had numerous talks and they traded away Gabbert to the Niners for a 6th round pick. I think they hope Shaw is there and will scoop him up.
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Aka hes a run first throw second QB. And that really got me thinking. Cause thats what Shaw was his whole career here.
That's not true of Manziel or Shaw, especially 2013.
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That's not true of Manziel or Shaw, especially 2013.
So the professionals that are saying this are wrong?

See i honestly did watch much of manziel last year. And the ESPN peice really opened my eyes to how many times hed run with ZERO pressure. Shaw already doesnt throw a lot. So thats what got me thinking about him.

Like i said last year Shaw was a lot better about throwing. But still a lot if times there was a "quit running out of a perfect pocket and throw!" Type moment.

In the peice ESPN was showing, they showed manziel run out of a perfect pocket with zero pressure. With two wide open guys. He ignored them and ran for the first down. The guy said while thats exciting for the average college football fan that crap wont cut it in the NFL. Pretty much what ive been sayin to my friends about shaw.

Dont get it twisted. I love Shaw for everything hes done. Hes the true definition of a gamecock. I had a chance to tell him goodluck in the NFL and thanks for everything he did for the university. But now looking at him as a quarterback prospect hes got some problems that a lot of fans want to ignore because they think so mych of him. Thats called wearing garnet glasses.
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Connor did whatever the offensive line allowed him to do. At times he ran for his life and when the line allowed , he picked defenses apart.
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What "professionals"? Go check stats....run first guys run first.
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Bruce is needed in Charlotte. But I've always wondered why local players didn't seem to get higher priority with their local NFL team. How better for Atlanta to steal Carolina fans from Charlotte than to draft a bunch of our guys?
ATL has had recently Abraham, Dunta, Cliff Matthews, Travian, DiMarco (last 3 still there) on their roster. Lots of gamecocks.
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