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Old 04-29-2014, 07:18 PM   #121
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Actually now read the recording is legal under "one party" law, meaning as long as you are one of the parties in the recording......perfectly legal by her
That is Federal law, not California.
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The fact that the NBA used an illegal taping should put the whole thing to rest, it wasn't legally obtained making in inadmissible.
Well, it isn't going to court, so, rules of evidence don't matter.

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Yeah, you can expect lawyers to be involved and Sterling will drag this out until he dies of natural causes anyway. It's the Sterling - Silver battle. lol. That's catchy.
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Uhhh, this is going to court, you can bet your bottom dollar. It isn't even close to being over.
I'd like to bet you that this will not be resolved in court. The NBA has an arbitration clause, meaning that when he bought the team he agreed to go through arbitration instead of court. He waived his right to sue, basically. And in arbitration they don't give a **** about the rules of evidence.

Correction: He may file a court case, but that shit will get thrown out really quickly.
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Was it illegal?
Who must give permission to record a telephone or in-person conversation?
Federal law permits recording telephone calls and in-person conversations with the consent of at least one of the parties. See 18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(d). This is called a "one-party consent" law. Under a one-party consent law, you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation. Furthermore, if you are not a party to the conversation, a "one-party consent" law will allow you to record the conversation or phone call so long as your source consents and has full knowledge that the communication will be recorded.
In addition to federal law, thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia have adopted "one-party consent" laws and permit individuals to record phone calls and conversations to which they are a party or when one party to the communication consents. See the State Law: Recording section of this legal guide for information on state wiretapping laws.
When must you get permission from everyone involved before recording?
Eleven states require the consent of every party to a phone call or conversation in order to make the recording lawful. These "two-party consent" laws have been adopted in California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
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According to California law, yes
In the link you provided, it states this:

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Federal law permits recording telephone calls and in-person conversations with the consent of at least one of the parties. See 18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(d). This is called a "one-party consent" law. Under a one-party consent law, you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation. Furthermore, if you are not a party to the conversation, a "one-party consent" law will allow you to record the conversation or phone call so long as your source consents and has full knowledge that the communication will be recorded.
From the linked law of that quote (Paragraph "d" of Section "2"), it states:

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(d) It shall not be unlawful under this chapter for a person not acting under color of law [not law enforcement or representative of law enforcement] to intercept a wire, oral, or electronic communication where such person is a party to the communication or where one of the parties to the communication has given prior consent to such interception unless such communication is intercepted for the purpose of committing any criminal or tortious act in violation of the Constitution or laws of the United States or of any State.
So, according to your link, it's legal....
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Old 04-29-2014, 07:27 PM   #125
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Well, it isn't going to court, so, rules of evidence don't matter.



It won't.



I'd like to bet you that this will not be resolved in court. The NBA has an arbitration clause, meaning that when he bought the team he agreed to go through arbitration instead of court. He waived his right to sue, basically. And in arbitration they don't give a **** about the rules of evidence.

Correction: He may file a court case, but that shit will get thrown out really quickly.
He'll go through arbitration and sue saying the arbitration was fixed.
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Ahhh, you changed your post.....verry sneaky.....
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That guy is as crazy as a two headed goat.

Whether you agree with his thoughts or not, he has committed no crime.

It's sad to see this mob mentality spring up whenever this topic rears its head. IMO, if the roles were reversed he would be pushed for a public apology, nothing more.
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I see a lot of Donald Sterlings in this thread. Geez
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Old 04-29-2014, 07:32 PM   #129
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In the link you provided, it states this:

From the linked law of that quote (Paragraph "d" of Section "2"), it states:

So, according to your link, it's legal....
(d) It shall not be unlawful under this chapter for a person not acting under color of law [not law enforcement or representative of law enforcement] to intercept a wire, oral, or electronic communication where such person is a party to the communication or where one of the parties to the communication has given prior consent to such interception UNLESS such communication is intercepted for the purpose of committing any criminal or tortious act in VIOLATION of the Constitution or LAWS of the United States or of any STATE.

It's illegal, because California Law says so, even though Federal Law allows it.
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I see a lot of Donald Sterlings in this thread. Geez
I don't really care what happens. I just want to see how this plays out because I have have feeling that this could go bad for the fans and players of the Clippers. They're in the middle of a Playoff series.
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Magic Johnson will buy them and move them out in order to make LA Lakers the only team in LA. At least I would.
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siap, Magic Johnson is behind this. Completely convinced he and this hooker conspired to do this because he wanted the team.

Old, rich, white guy was an easy target. They tee'd him up for this and let the court of public opinion tear him to pieces.
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Magic Johnson will buy them and move them out in order to make LA Lakers the only team in LA. At least I would.
Why would he leave LA he has the Dodgers there?
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siap, Magic Johnson is behind this. Completely convinced he and this hooker conspired to do this because he wanted the team.
Well, Magic Johnson is black so maybe Sterling was suspicious. lol.
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I'm starting to feel the same way.
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I'm about as interested in this fiasco as I am with watching the NBA. So far this year I have watched zero games....about the same amount of minutes I'll follow this TMZ event.
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I'm about as interested in this fiasco as I am with watching the NBA. So far this year I have watched zero games....about the same amount of minutes I'll follow this TMZ event.
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Was it illegal?

What I mean with this question is are we just assuming he did not know she was recording the conversation?

She allegedly was his "archivist" and was enlisted by Sterling

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I have no idea how true that is but that is out there.
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What I mean with this question is are we just assuming he did not know she was recording the conversation?

She allegedly was his "archivist" and was enlisted by Sterling



I have no idea how true that is but that is out there.
She has over 100 hours of recordings. He had to know he was being recorded
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