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Old 05-05-2014, 02:51 PM   #1
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Default Texans' Bob McNair: Jadeveon Clowney is best in draft

"You take a guy like Jadeveon Clowney," McNair said. "He's obviously the best player in the draft, but he's a defensive end. He's not a quarterback. If he's a quarterback and the best player it's easy, but that's not the case. So can that defensive player have a greater impact on the success of your team than one of these quarterbacks? It's not a sure thing that he is."
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Default Re: Texans' Bob McNair: Jadeveon Clowney is best in draft

Bell Tolls: Texas-sized dilemma for Texans, Johnny Manziel

Maybe Atlanta will be the team to leap to the top spot for Clowney. Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff, slotted sixth, moved up 20 slots to draft Julio Jones in 2011. You know he'd pull the trigger again.

The Falcons don't need a quarterback. They need Clowney.
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I just do not think johnny will be any good at the next level.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:00 PM   #4
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I just do not think johnny will be any good at the next level.
He's no "sure thing", that's "for sure".
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Default Re: Texans' Bob McNair: Jadeveon Clowney is best in draft

He's got some great athleticism and intangibles, that's for sure, but he strikes me as an even less disciplined version of Tony Romo. He's got both the biggest upside and downside. I know I'm probably wearing Garnet glasses, but I bet Manziel will win a couple games on sheer guts, then he'll lose some head-scratchers.
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Manziel = Tebow 2.0
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Manziel = Tebow 2.0

I am leaning that way myself, although I think he has a better chance than Tebow of making it. However, his style of play will not translate into the NFL.
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Getting back to Jadeveon: I think the upside of JD is that he is 6-6. By the 2015 football season, he is likely to be a huge DE. He just turned 21. He could be a 280-290 DE with no problem at all. Remember how much Taylor blew up after he went pro?
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Remember how much Taylor blew up after he went pro?
Ah, the good ole day's of unchecked PED use in the NFL....
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"You take a guy like Jadeveon Clowney," McNair said. "He's obviously the best player in the draft...
Which means he's sandbagging....JD goes #1.

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Manziel = Tebow 2.0
Nah....JM has an accurate arm and can do some uncanny things...not just run over people....huge difference.

One of greatest question marks in recent draft history.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:31 PM   #11
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But he won't....265, chisled, and playing some LB.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:08 PM   #12
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Default Re: Texans' Bob McNair: Jadeveon Clowney is best in draft

JJ Watt will make sure Clowney is a sure thing, just like Ray LEwis did with any draft pick to the Ravens. In fact, Houston could turn into the new Ravens.
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Yeah, they think Clowney is the best prospect in the draft, but they need a QB. The Schaub era is over with now and I don't see Fitzpatrick leading the Texans to the playoffs. While they are so high on Clowney's talent, they are also concerned as to how effective he would be in their 3-4 defense. Latest rumors I'm hearing have the Texans deciding between Clowney and Manziel.
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Default Re: Texans' Bob McNair: Jadeveon Clowney is best in draft

In fact, Houston could turn into the new Ravens.

Interesting take, because who says you HAVE to take a QB in the early rounds in order to create a championship caliber team. Why NOT continue building a great defense (the Ravens won the Super Bowl with Dilfer), then pick up a good game manager type (McCarron and Shaw will probably be available) in the later rounds. I don't think MCarron and Shaw are considered to have the upside of a Manziel (or Bortles or Bridgewater), but I don't think they have as much downside as those names either.
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they should take clowney 1 and Zach Mettenberger in the 2nd or 3rd round.
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No franchise QB's in the draft means Texans take Clowney.
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they should take clowney 1 and Zach Mettenberger in the 2nd or 3rd round.
Better- Take Clowney 1st, take Connor Shaw late rounds.
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Better- Take Clowney 1st, take Connor Shaw late rounds.
shaw is a winnerand I would love the texans to take him but Mettenberger has the potential to be a stud franchise qb. he is big, has a big arm, and showed drastic improvement last year with a pro coordinator
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shaw is a winnerand I would love the texans to take him but Mettenberger has the potential to be a stud franchise qb. he is big, has a big arm, and showed drastic improvement last year with a pro coordinator
No, I totally understand, but thinking long term for the Texans they could fill a need in 2nd or 3rd round with OL or Safety & steal Shaw in the 5th. Game manager and strong defense wins championships.
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No, I totally understand, but thinking long term for the Texans they could fill a need in 2nd or 3rd round with OL or Safety & steal Shaw in the 5th. Game manager and strong defense wins championships.
like the other dude said copy the ravens model. Shaw is better than Dilfer
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