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Old 05-07-2014, 12:13 PM   #21
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And Bruce was already an exceptional talent that was able to line up at pretty much any skill position and excel in high school.

Whats your point?
My point is some of those guys didn't necessarily get drafted because of the coaching they received from Spurrier Jr.

I'm neither one to praise the WR coach nor to condemn him, but I thought it might be worth pointing out a potential flaw in the thinking behind that particular post. If one of our guys who is coached by Jr. makes it to the NFL but doesn't have an innate ability to make plays (Rice, Jeffery, Sanders, and Ellington), then the statement would have more value.
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I'm sure he's talking about the downtown area, not North 52. Six is about right.
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There are more than 6 red lights in moncks corner!

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Bruce will be awesome in the NFL.
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I never expected Bruce to be so sure-handed, run such great routes, and make the spectacular catch so often. When he sigened a lot were talking about him playing defense on football and basketball. The guy's game is impressive. He deserves to go in a high round.
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The best part of that was hearing Bruce say how great it was to hear the crowd call his name and how pumped up it got him. That's pure gold right there.
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For as much as folks on here complain about Jr as a WR coach, he has put a lot of WRs in the league. Kenny, Sidney, Alshon, Jared Cook, Ace and now Bruce.
I think people were complaining more about his playcalling. I'm not sure why he was delegated play calling duties for that short time period. I think it was by committee or something.
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My point is some of those guys didn't necessarily get drafted because of the coaching they received from Spurrier Jr.

I'm neither one to praise the WR coach nor to condemn him, but I thought it might be worth pointing out a potential flaw in the thinking behind that particular post. If one of our guys who is coached by Jr. makes it to the NFL but doesn't have an innate ability to make plays (Rice, Jeffery, Sanders, and Ellington), then the statement would have more value.

Sorry you are so hard to please. I think he did a fine job with them. There have been many highly recruited WRs who don't perform in college. I just recall seeing the WR coach for Jacksonville commenting on the precision that Ace ran his patterns. Plus Kenny and Bruce were QBs in high school not WRs. Someone taught them how to play. Sidney had talent but wasn't highly recruited out of HS. Anyway, I have seen a number of posts hear criticizing Jr. as a poor WR coach. Just pointing out he was doing ok.
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My point is some of those guys didn't necessarily get drafted because of the coaching they received from Spurrier Jr.

I'm neither one to praise the WR coach nor to condemn him, but I thought it might be worth pointing out a potential flaw in the thinking behind that particular post. If one of our guys who is coached by Jr. makes it to the NFL but doesn't have an innate ability to make plays (Rice, Jeffery, Sanders, and Ellington), then the statement would have more value.
JR doesn't get 5 * recruits every year like Alabama, FSU, OSU, etc. He does more with less. He develops guys over time to become good route runners and puts them in positions to make big plays.

Think about all those WR's that walk in to the traditional power programs and don't even see the field. I don't know that Ace Sanders makes it to the NFL if he goes to Bama. Same with Bruce.

I think he does a fantastic job at WR development.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:14 PM   #30
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JR doesn't get 5 * recruits every year like Alabama, FSU, OSU, etc. He does more with less. He develops guys over time to become good route runners and puts them in positions to make big plays.

Think about all those WR's that walk in to the traditional power programs and don't even see the field. I don't know that Ace Sanders makes it to the NFL if he goes to Bama. Same with Bruce.

I think he does a fantastic job at WR development.
I don't think it was "more with less." Those guys were naturals, they just needed a little practice and tweaking to really realize their potential that may have not been that obvious in HS.
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Oh look, a thread about a youtube video has turned into an assessment of our wide receivers coach. Who'd a thunk it?

Awesome video!
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Well, to be fair...its a video regarding his upcoming selection in the NFL draft.

One could argue that basketball highlights could further demonstrate his athleticism, but even still...it makes complete sense to focus on the sport that he is going pro in.
Seems like most of the highlights were from his high school days, or just showed him running the stadium. Did they even show any of his amazing, big-time USC receptions?
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I wish him the best. All those clutch catches.....damn.
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I'm indifferent, but to be fair, Rice and Jeffery were already great talents, Cook was/is a TE, and Sanders was picked up more because of his abilities in the return game.
What kind of point are you making, most players that go in the NFL today were already great talents including Sanders and Ellington who were as highly ranked as both Rice and Jeffery although Ellington was a basketball/QB prospect.
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My point is some of those guys didn't necessarily get drafted because of the coaching they received from Spurrier Jr.

I'm neither one to praise the WR coach nor to condemn him, but I thought it might be worth pointing out a potential flaw in the thinking behind that particular post. If one of our guys who is coached by Jr. makes it to the NFL but doesn't have an innate ability to make plays (Rice, Jeffery, Sanders, and Ellington), then the statement would have more value.
Please give us an example of a player drafted without the innate ability to make plays?
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What kind of point are you making, most players that go in the NFL today were already great talents including Sanders and Ellington who were as highly ranked as both Rice and Jeffery although Ellington was a basketball/QB prospect.
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I'm still hearing crickets...
You guys are making too much of my comment. I'm trying to keep the thread from getting hijacked any more than it already has. My first two posts in the thread were about Bruce. I eventually responded to someone who tried to make the thread about something else by simply saying Jr. didn't have to do too much with the guys the poster named. That apparently caused you guys to get defensive over a coach, even though I wasn't attacking him. Let me restate one of my comments so maybe you understand it a little better.

Look at Sammy Watkins. He's going to be a very high pick in the draft because of his natural ability, not because of the coaching he received while at CU. Some guys just have "it" when it comes to making plays, and the receivers the poster I responded to named all do, so it's not saying a lot about Jr.'s coaching ability to point out those players have been successful.

Now look at a player like Wes Welker. His natural playmaking ability is less than someone like Bruce (meaning he might not make some of the circus-style catches Bruce has at times), yet he has been successful because of his commitment to fundamentals and striving to understand the game. He runs really good routes and understands defenses, and he uses that to his advantage more than natural athletic ability. Am I saying Welker doesn't have ability? No, that would be ridiculous, but his overall athleticism probably isn't on par with guys like Alshon, Sidney, Ace (who, again, was picked up because of his return prowess), and now Bruce.

Now if we can get back to the topic at hand, I really hope Bruce gets picked up in the second round. I obviously wish he could sneak into the first round, but I don't think that's likely.
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