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Old 05-11-2014, 03:08 PM   #41
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It is kind of funny that he is sitting behind another Garcia-like player.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:47 PM   #43
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It is kind of funny that he is sitting behind another Garcia-like player.
I think its funny that Garcia gets dawged like he was the worst player we ever had, when considering the things people like Weslye Saunders did.
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I was hoping that he'd get drafted, but at least he'll be able to say he participated in pro football after all is said and done. Free agent qb's never get a chance to truly develop. The high draft pick's will always get all of the primary snaps/meaningful work, and Connor will be a pass-drill mule unless he absolutely goes off in training camp.
I think that depends on the coaching staff. Kurt Warner and Tony Romo were undrafted free agents. It worked out pretty well for those guys. Cleveland's incumbent Brian Hoyer was once an undrafted free agent for the Patriots. There are many other examples of undrafted free agent quarterbacks making it, at least as veteran backups.

Like others here, I'm not crazy about Cleveland as a fit, and Connor has his work cut out for him, but I think he will, at the very least, make the practice squad. That would buy him more time to impress with his work ethic, intangibles, and underrated talent.
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If you look in the original Shaw thread, I called this - Manziel first then Connor to the Browns. I follow the Browns closely and this makes tons of sense. He'll make the 53 after Young and maybe Thigpen are cut. Brian Hoyer will be there, too. Offense will not miss much of a beat if Connor he subs JFF. That team needed a media splash and got it with JFF. Also needed gritty depth at QB and got that with Shaw. The entire organization is getting aggressively overhauled in a big way and will contend within in the next 3-5 years.
I don't follow the Browns too closely, but agree with your logic. Makes a lot of sense to bring in a guy like Connor with a great work ethic and similar playing style to Manziel. Wouldn't even be the first time in 3 years that a team went into the season with a Rookie starter and backup QB. Just look at the skins with RGIII and Cousins. Hmm, I wonder who the offensive coordinator was for the Redskins that year? Kyle Shannahan maybe? The Browns current OC. Probably doesn't want to have to make a second play book for when Manziel gets hurt.
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I don't follow the Browns too closely, but agree with your logic. Makes a lot of sense to bring in a guy like Connor with a great work ethic and similar playing style to Manziel. Wouldn't even be the first time in 3 years that a team went into the season with a Rookie starter and backup QB. Just look at the skins with RGIII and Cousins. Hmm, I wonder who the offensive coordinator was for the Redskins that year? Kyle Shannahan maybe? The Browns current OC. Probably doesn't want to have to make a second play book for when Manziel gets hurt.
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I was hoping that Connor would have went to Seattle. As stated before, Cleveland was the absolute WORST possible landing spot for him. It's like picking the shortest straw.

The only thing I can see here is the Browns organization using Connor as a motivator for JM because they know Connor is going to work his ass off. Also even if Shaw has a better training camp than Manziel, he'll still most likely get cut.
That^ The Browns know Connor does everything right - watches film, works out in the weight room, practices hard, works on getting better and better, and he stays out of trouble. Connor could coach JM to be better on and off the field.
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Sounds like browns are going zone read and now have both a starting and backup qb to build the offense around. Wonder how JF will adapt to being backup? :)


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Weird thing is that OTHER teams were interested in Connor and I know the temptation is to take the "bird in the hand" but I don't think Connor will last the pre-season on the Browns team. Doubt that he'll get more than a cursory look. The Browns' fans are so wrapped up in Johnny Football that I doubt Connor ever sees the field unless Manziel get's hurt.
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Weird thing is that OTHER teams were interested in Connor and I know the temptation is to take the "bird in the hand" but I don't think Connor will last the pre-season on the Browns team. Doubt that he'll get more than a cursory look. The Browns' fans are so wrapped up in Johnny Football that I doubt Connor ever sees the field unless Manziel get's hurt.

I feel the same way. With Vince Young and Tyler Thigpen also on the roster (and both have started NFL games), I am not sure what Connor's agent was thinking. That is a bunch for Connor to overcome. Good news is that Vince and Tyler have bigger contracts so that might make them the first to go in a cost conscious NFL.
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I feel the same way. With Vince Young and Tyler Thigpen also on the roster (and both have started NFL games), I am not sure what Connor's agent was thinking. That is a bunch for Connor to overcome. Good news is that Vince and Tyler have bigger contracts so that might make them the first to go in a cost conscious NFL.
Thigpen and Young will get cut. It'll be Hoyer, Manziel, Shaw in that order week 1.
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Thigpen and Young will get cut. It'll be Hoyer, Manziel, Shaw in that order week 1.
Do the Browns usually keep 3 QBs on their 53 man roster or will Shaw be on practice squad? I know with the Saints, they usually just keep 2 on the 53 man, and practice squad the 3rd.
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Saw a guy at the gym the other day wearing this shirt that made me cringe. It had a map of Canada, USA, and Mexico. Canada and Mexico were labeled correctly but the USA was labeled "Cleveland"... poor Connor is stuck with that diabolical team in that god forsaken city.
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Do the Browns usually keep 3 QBs on their 53 man roster or will Shaw be on practice squad? I know with the Saints, they usually just keep 2 on the 53 man, and practice squad the 3rd.
If that scenario plays out - practice squad.
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Saw a guy at the gym the other day wearing this shirt that made me cringe. It had a map of Canada, USA, and Mexico. Canada and Mexico were labeled correctly but the USA was labeled "Cleveland"... poor Connor is stuck with that diabolical team in that god forsaken city.
IDK, I've only been to Cleaveland once, but the bar district they have on the Riverfront is pretty nice.
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IDK, I've only been to Cleaveland once, but the bar district they have on the Riverfront is pretty nice.
And I've never been there but have heard some good things... but still...

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Just spit balling here, so don't hate on me, but could it be that they're bringing Connor in as a "scout team" type player because of his mobility and similarity to Johnny Football?
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Just spit balling here, so don't hate on me, but could it be that they're bringing Connor in as a "scout team" type player because of his mobility and similarity to Johnny Football?
THey would not need to simulate their own QB.
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THey would not need to simulate their own QB.
But as the league gets more and more players like that it makes sense. Russell Wilson, Geno Smith, Alex Smith, etc.
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