QUARLES AND HAMPTON SHOULD HAVE STAYED - Page 9

JDRAY^# · 05-12-2014, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonnie

No, no and NO! As the NFL transitions to a pass first league, RB's are the LAST ones that should go. This year, the FIRST running back selected was taken with the 54th overall pick. If you are an ULTRA-elite talent, or have very extenuating circumstances (like Lattimore) you might consider it, otherwise, a RB should stay, stay, STAY!!!!

RBs are becoming less valuable with the dual threat QB. RBs that would have been 1st rounders are now late 2nd-3rd rounders at best. You get injured, your more than likely not getting drafted. If I was rated as one of the top RBs and I was healthy after 3 years, I would leave early and get my money. Coming back to school for another year would not make you a 1st rounder.

b381l · 05-12-2014, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Flameout12

Care to name some we have that are locks for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rds?

1 OL (probably Shell), Davis, Roland, Adams.....this assumes they have a good 2014 season. There are a few more that have the potential but still unproven at this point. I think the reason Bruce didn't get drafted higher was because he didn't have many catches or yards.

gocockswyn · 05-12-2014, 08:19 PM

Very worried about Victor . It is disappointing to us and 100 x more for him. We will miss both Quarles and Vic. Is it possible Victor could come back as an assistant and finish his degree and help on defense?

conwaycock2 · 05-12-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gocockswyn

Very worried about Victor . It is disappointing to us and 100 x more for him. We will miss both Quarles and Vic. Is it possible Victor could come back as an assistant and finish his degree and help on defense?

Nicely done. Couldn't agree more

KaneisAble · 05-12-2014, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Flameout12

Care to name some we have that are locks for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rds?

So now the criteria is 1-3? 2 of the guys you listed (Bruce and Ace) weren't 1-3.

We have plenty of draftable/NFL capable talent on the team, beyond the 1 definite (Damiere Byrd, which, what? He's the one you pick?) and the 2 "maybes".

KaneisAble · 05-12-2014, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Flameout12

Care to name some we have that are locks for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rds?

- Byrd
- Roland
- Thompson
- Mike Davis
- Busta Anderson
- Jerrell Adams
- Brandon Shell
- Skai Moore
- Pharaoh Cooper
- Gerald Dixon, Jr.
- Chaz Elder

Flameout12 · 05-12-2014, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KaneisAble

So now the criteria is 1-3? 2 of the guys you listed (Bruce and Ace) weren't 1-3.

We have plenty of draftable/NFL capable talent on the team, beyond the 1 definite (Damiere Byrd, which, what? He's the one you pick?) and the 2 "maybes".

Which ones are "elite"?...or do you just want to keep posting pricky comments. This is no longer a discussion...and I'm not in on your pissin contest...

ZenUSC · 05-12-2014, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KaneisAble

- Byrd
- Roland
- Thompson
- Mike Davis
- Busta Anderson
- Jerrell Adams
- Brandon Shell
- Skai Moore
- Pharaoh Cooper
- Gerald Dixon, Jr.
- Chaz Elder

Oh yea. Let's mislead some more players.

TKE226 · 05-12-2014, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KaneisAble

- Byrd
- Roland
- Thompson
- Mike Davis
- Busta Anderson
- Jerrell Adams
- Brandon Shell
- Skai Moore
- Pharaoh Cooper
- Gerald Dixon, Jr.
- Chaz Elder

Take off the garnet glasses or maybe watch other teams play. There is a ton of talent outside of SC and outside of the SEC. Just consider that the draft is 7 rounds of 32 teams = 224 picks + compensatory picks...so just say 250 picks. There are ~120 D1 teams with a roster of how many? 80, 70? 120*70=8400 players. Say half are draft eligible so 4200...that doesn't count DII teams...and there are 32 picks per round, 3 rounds is 96 picks from 4200 people...not good odds

KaneisAble · 05-12-2014, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Flameout12

Which ones are "elite"?...or do you just want to keep posting pricky comments. This is no longer a discussion...and I'm not in on your pissin contest...

I'm asking what your criteria is because you keep modifying it; is it "1st-3rd round guys" or have NFL potential? Which constitutes "elite" in your book? Because you listed guys who were drafted everywhere from 1st-6th.

Every guy I listed has NFL potential. Doesn't mean they're going to be HOF or even get drafted. Lot depends on their own dedication, production, avoiding injuries, etc.

KaneisAble · 05-12-2014, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenUSC

Oh yea. Let's mislead some more players.

? How am I "misleading" players? I'm saying all of those have NFL potential. I'm not suggesting they all leave school early, and if I was, I'm not an agent or coach or family member. The list was in response to players on the roster "who have NFL potential". Flameout12 said only "Damiere Byrd" and "maybe Skai Moore or Pharaoh Cooper".

Do you think those players have NFL potential, yes or no?

KaneisAble · 05-12-2014, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TKE226

Take off the garnet glasses or maybe watch other teams play. There is a ton of talent outside of SC and outside of the SEC. Just consider that the draft is 7 rounds of 32 teams = 224 picks + compensatory picks...so just say 250 picks. There are ~120 D1 teams with a roster of how many? 80, 70? 120*70=8400 players. Say half are draft eligible so 4200...that doesn't count DII teams...and there are 32 picks per round, 3 rounds is 96 picks from 4200 people...not good odds

I'm fully aware of the math. The poster said we only had "Damiere Byrd" and "maybe Skai Moore or Pharaoh Cooper" on the team who had any NFL potential. I disagreed w/ him. Sorry if I believe those highly skilled players on an SEC contending team have the potential to be drafted in the next 1-3 years.

b381l · 05-12-2014, 10:13 PM

[quote=KaneisAble;4156023]

- Byrd XXX
- Roland
- Thompson XXX
- Mike Davis
- Busta Anderson XXX
- Jerrell Adams
- Brandon Shell
- Skai Moore (too early)
- Pharaoh Cooper (too early, not elite)
- Gerald Dixon, Jr. (no starts, not elite)
- Chaz Elder (too early)

KaneisAble · 05-12-2014, 10:15 PM

[quote=b381l;4156048]

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Originally Posted by KaneisAble

- Byrd XXX
- Roland
- Thompson XXX
- Mike Davis
- Busta Anderson XXX
- Jerrell Adams
- Brandon Shell
- Skai Moore (too early)
- Pharaoh Cooper (too early, not elite)
- Gerald Dixon, Jr. (no starts, not elite)
- Chaz Elder (too early)

What do the Xs mean? (Asking genuinely.)

roosterdude21 · 05-12-2014, 11:29 PM

Porn stars

Flameout12 · 05-12-2014, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KaneisAble

I'm asking what your criteria is because you keep modifying it...

No one's "modifying"...elite is elite..if you can't grasp the concept, then stay ignorant.

Flameout12 · 05-12-2014, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by b381l

- Byrd XXX

Damiere has elite speed....he could get picked high....they do that.

KaneisAble · 05-13-2014, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Flameout12

No one's "modifying"...elite is elite..if you can't grasp the concept, then stay ignorant.

ORLY? Can't engage in a conversation so you resort to name-calling. Cool strategy. I guess that means "checkmate"?

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Originally Posted by Flameout12

- the NFL is looking for elite athletes and talent and will look hard and wide to find it. If we look objectively....it should be kinda obvious why Jadeveon, Bruce, Ace, MI6, Alshon, Stephon, etc...went high. Those guys were all elite athletes, elite talent, or both.

Damiere Byrd fits that profile...not sure if we have anyone else on our current team that does.....maybe Skai Moore or Pharoh Cooper.

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Originally Posted by Flameout12

Care to name some we have that are locks for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rds?

Bruce and Ace: 4th Round picks. So which is it? What's your threshold for "elite"? 1st to 3rd "locks" or not? Not to mention that there are plenty of Gamecocks taken in later rounds or undrafted altogether playing in the league.

You want to say our team is that bereft of NFL potential, be my guest. I listed a group of guys who I thought had the potential to be drafted and your response is "1-3 rounds though" when the examples you cite are...1-4? So make up your mind. (And if we're talking about "ignorance", the fact that you think Damiere Byrd is the only draftable player on the team makes your case pretty strongly. Are you saying Byrd is a "lock for 1-3"? Cool flaming, tho.)

TaiwanCock · 05-13-2014, 10:02 AM

Why Did Victor Hampton Go Undrafted? (WLTX) (And why he should eventually get signed.)

Former Gamecock defensive back Victor Hampton was not selected in the 2014 NFL Draft. So far, he has yet to receive a call about free agency with any of the league's teams. News 19's James Starks spoke with NFL Draft analyst Dion Caputi (@nfldraftupdate) of National Football Post to get his thoughts as to why Hampton is without a team.

trapper82 · 05-13-2014, 10:13 AM

I really hope he gets a chance, Once some teams have attrition through camps and players retiring/dropping out of the league he may get a call. It's definitely an uphill battle for him at this point. He could probably try CFL if he wants to go that route into the pros, but it definitely doesn't happen often. Especially on the defensive side, I would think.

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trapper82 1st Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 4,741 CockyCash: 500	Re: QUARLES AND HAMPTON SHOULD HAVE STAYED I really hope he gets a chance, Once some teams have attrition through camps and players retiring/dropping out of the league he may get a call. It's definitely an uphill battle for him at this point. He could probably try CFL if he wants to go that route into the pros, but it definitely doesn't happen often. Especially on the defensive side, I would think. __________________ You can't spell EXCUSE without the "CU."

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