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Old 05-14-2014, 12:57 PM   #241
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i think mike can handle the workload as long as we dont end up in a situation where we need 20+ carries from him every week to win. then its not just the carries, its the touches overall, and the snaps. if he gets banged up this year like he did to finish last year then an injury prone label will stick but if he gets through this year relatively unscathed then it will help him a bunch.
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K, cool...so, when someone on this board calls a player "injury prone" is there a level of expectation that this sort of genetic testing has been done?

Or is that person just blowing smoke, from a completely non-medical perspective?
It's a matter of perspective and perception, which has great value in the NFL draft. There are so many other options for those doing the picking, that someone that is "perceived" as injury prone may get jumped...especially RB.
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His foot injury against UK?
I think I blocked that game out of my mind. Never is rarely a good word to use.

I was actually agreeing with you in that certain players seem more likely to get banged up in normal wear and tear than others.
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I'd be willing to bet Mike Davis goes in round 1. The decline in running backs getting drafted has to with the changing nature of the game, but it also has to do with the quality of the crop of running backs coming out each year. Mike Davis is better than Bishop Sankey, and i think Davis is the closest thing to Adrian Peterson that has come around in the last few years.
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K, cool...so, when someone on this board calls a player "injury prone" is there a level of expectation that this sort of genetic testing has been done?

Or is that person just blowing smoke, from a completely non-medical perspective?
I am just saying that some people are genetically more likely to sustain injuries through normal game play than others. I am not qualified to say who those people are from a genetic standpoint, but I think people make educated guesses by a person's ability to play in comparison to their peers. You may think that is unfair, but I think people are quick to change their opinion with an extended period of time going by without injury. I think some are a little too quick to use it, but Mike Davis got banged up a few multiple ways last year so I think that is where this is coming from.
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I don't want MDavis to carry 25+ times a game. I'd like him to split with Wilds and sprinkle some Williams/Carson in for a few carries a game as well.

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Damiere Byrd will get picked if he has another solid season. He will run great and if he test well elsewhere, he becomes a lock.
Hard to say, but I could see him going as high as 4th or 3rd if someone really wants him.
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I don't want MDavis to carry 25+ times a game.
Especially if he's going to get banged up and lose his effectiveness. Wilds needs to stay healthy. They need to trade off banging on opposing defenses....bam/bam.
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I am just saying that some people are genetically more likely to sustain injuries through normal game play than others. I am not qualified to say who those people are from a genetic standpoint, but I think people make educated guesses by a person's ability to play in comparison to their peers. You may think that is unfair, but I think people are quick to change their opinion with an extended period of time going by without injury. I think some are a little too quick to use it, but Mike Davis got banged up a few multiple ways last year so I think that is where this is coming from.

I understand what you're saying, and appreciate the rational discourse.

My point that I should have been more direct with, is that labeling someone as "injury prone" without any scientific or medical basis to back it up for that individual is damaging. To label someone as such, you're (not you, specifically) furthering a narrative that becomes part of that player's identity.

Sure, I recognize what one person on CT says about a player isn't going to impact their eventual draft grade, but the point still stands; if one person says it, and then 10...then 100, well, you get the idea. Its unnecessary, IMO.

I just wish people would stick to facts before labeling a player as having a specific pre-condition, is all.
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Old 05-14-2014, 02:10 PM   #250
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Hard to say, but I could see him going as high as 4th or 3rd if someone really wants him.
I'm thinking 4th round too. If I would compare him to anyone it would be Dri Archer from Kent State. 4th round selection in the draft and he has similar intangibles to Byrd. Here are his combine results:

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I'm thinking 4th round too. If I would compare him to anyone it would be Dri Archer from Kent State. 4th round selection in the draft and he has similar intangibles to Byrd. Here are his combine results:

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I think the measurable are there, but the film isn't the same yet.
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I think the measurable are there, but the film isn't the same yet.
I agree. Dri had a heck of a year.
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archer was a running back though they did move him around. it depends on who's picking, but byrd being a more polished receiver may help him get picked earlier. how well he performs this year and all star games workouts will go a long way to determine where he gets drafted. roland is in a similar boat.
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Roland and Byrd are going to need to come back another year

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I understand what you're saying, and appreciate the rational discourse.

My point that I should have been more direct with, is that labeling someone as "injury prone" without any scientific or medical basis to back it up for that individual is damaging. To label someone as such, you're (not you, specifically) furthering a narrative that becomes part of that player's identity.

Sure, I recognize what one person on CT says about a player isn't going to impact their eventual draft grade, but the point still stands; if one person says it, and then 10...then 100, well, you get the idea. Its unnecessary, IMO.

I just wish people would stick to facts before labeling a player as having a specific pre-condition, is all.

How some people play makes them prone to more injuries. MD and Latti delivered a lot of punishment when they ran. There were several runs last year when I wanted MD to just get done rather than fight for another yard. He took a beating in a number of those instances. SOS even said in one of his coaches show that MD needed to do a better job of protecting himself. But that's his style and that style makes him ripe for injuries. Connor is sort of the same way early in his career. He refused to slide and was constantly get dinged up. he eventually learned to get down and his career was better for it.
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I doubt Hampton even gets signed, sounds like no NFL team wants to take a chance on him. When the bengals wont even sign you, you know its bad.
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