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Old 05-13-2014, 11:47 AM   #961
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Shaun King went on local radio this morning and shedded DG. Said the Panthers are the least talented OL and skill position team in the entire NFC.
Probably correct.

If we are hanging our hopes on the likes of Tavares King becoming a dependable playmaker for us than I am worried.

I hope Cotchery and Avant are just a lot better than anyone really knows but I think we know who they are.

I am truly worried about the offensive line.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:33 PM   #962
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So, this isn't good. Greg Hardy reportedly arrested for domestic violence.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...stic-violence/
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Probably correct.

If we are hanging our hopes on the likes of Tavares King becoming a dependable playmaker for us than I am worried.

I hope Cotchery and Avant are just a lot better than anyone really knows but I think we know who they are.

I am truly worried about the offensive line.
Avant has very reliable hands and will serve as a solid #3 receiver.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:39 PM   #964
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So, this isn't good. Greg Hardy reportedly arrested for domestic violence.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...stic-violence/
Not good news at all..
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:47 PM   #965
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I was one of the few who really liked the Kony Ealy pick this year. Good thing we got him too. I'm sure Hardy will face some sort of suspension from this. Also, next year we will not have both Hardy and Charles Johnson on the team in my opinion. They together are about a $27,000,000 hit to the cap. Johnson may be released or Hardy not signed due to character issues and being too expensive.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:53 PM   #966
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IDK if DG should have used the franchise tag on GH. It costs us 13+ million to keep him when that money could have gone into a couple of WRs or a LT.

Obviously we didn't know at the time that the team could get Ealy in the draft nor could anyone have known that GH would get arrested. However, with both the Ealy pick and Gh arrest - the franchise tag looks like a mistake.

If GH is suspended for any length of time, is the team credited back with that money towards their cap figure? If so, does that cap money roll into the next season like all money that is under the cap?
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Big Cat won't take lightly to this, but damn it Kraken you are supposed to beat up Breesus.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:26 PM   #968
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Probably correct.

If we are hanging our hopes on the likes of Tavares King becoming a dependable playmaker for us than I am worried.

I hope Cotchery and Avant are just a lot better than anyone really knows but I think we know who they are.

I am truly worried about the offensive line.
DG's draft was "the Giants way". He doesn't believe in drafting on need - probability says you're not going to end up with the best players that way, over the long run. Most of the commentators think needs first -> every analysis I read was based on that perspective. They also don't understand the cap situation with Kraken/CJ, that we've all been talking bout here, and the rationale behind the Ealy pick.



As far as Kraken, I agree it was a bad idea to tag him - we might have held on to mitchell and Ginn, and had some money left over.
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FYI...

Team would recieve cap credit if GH was suspended by the NFL.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...scant-options/
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Avant has very reliable hands and will serve as a solid #3 receiver.
I agree. He is a solid #3 and so is Cotchery...and so is Underwood and we bring in a an unpolished wr in KB.

I don't know. I just hope Cotchery or someone on the roster can be at least a solid #2 or even a passable #1 nfl wideout.

A lineup full of #3 wr's is not going to win big IMO. Philly tried it for years before they finally went and got T.O. And then Went to the Super Bowl.

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FYI...

Team would recieve cap credit if GH was suspended by the NFL.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...scant-options/
well, there's some good news.

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DG's draft was "the Giants way". He doesn't believe in drafting on need - probability says you're not going to end up with the best players that way, over the long run. Most of the commentators think needs first -> every analysis I read was based on that perspective. They also don't understand the cap situation with Kraken/CJ, that we've all been talking bout here, and the rationale behind the Ealy pick.



As far as Kraken, I agree it was a bad idea to tag him - we might have held on to mitchell and Ginn, and had some money left over.
Tagging GH was a mistake for sure now. I don't necessarily disagree with taking value over need in recruiting but if the oline struggles mightily next season I may change my tune.
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I agree. He is a solid #3 and so is Cotchery...and so is Underwood and we bring in a an unpolished wr in KB.

I don't know. I just hope Cotchery or someone on the roster can be at least a solid #2 or even a passable #1 nfl wideout.

A lineup full of #3 wr's is not going to win big IMO. Philly tried it for years before they finally went and got T.O. And then Went to the Super Bowl.

well, there's some good news.



Tagging GH was a mistake for sure now. I don't necessarily disagree with taking value over need in recruiting but if the oline struggles mightily next season I may change my tune.
The Seahawks just won the Super Bowl with Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin as their best receivers. Sidney Rice tore his acl before the playoffs (and he arguably is a #3 receiver now MAYBE a #2) and Percy Harvin only played in like 2 games all year (granted he had some huge plays in the Super Bowl. The Seahawks would have won without Percy though as they did all year. Their Defense was the difference maker and the Panthers have a very good Defense (not on the Seahawks level but very good).

Also, Calvin Johnson has been the best WR in the league for a while now but the Lions didn't make the playoffs. Big Time WR is nice, but not necessary to winning big.
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The Ealy pick looks like gold now. Gettleman knew something we didnt
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The Seahawks just won the Super Bowl with Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin as their best receivers. Sidney Rice tore his acl before the playoffs (and he arguably is a #3 receiver now MAYBE a #2) and Percy Harvin only played in like 2 games all year (granted he had some huge plays in the Super Bowl. The Seahawks would have won without Percy though as they did all year. Their Defense was the difference maker and the Panthers have a very good Defense (not on the Seahawks level but very good).

Also, Calvin Johnson has been the best WR in the league for a while now but the Lions didn't make the playoffs. Big Time WR is nice, but not necessary to winning big.
I would take the Seattle wr corps from last year over ours in a hot minute.

Golden Tate, Sid Rice, Harvin, Baldwin. At least there are three #2's listed.

I am not saying you need an elite wr's to win it all but it does help to stretch out the d if you have at least one.
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So Hardy was pissed that his old lady was banging Nelly. This story just gets better and better.

http://thebiglead.com/2014/05/15/gre...ip-with-nelly/
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Lesson learnt.

In the draft, every position is a position of need.
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What did he know?
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What did he know?
he's boyz w/ nelly an learnt bout dat gurl
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So Hardy was pissed that his old lady was banging Nelly. This story just gets better and better.

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Ruh roh. He may have to spend a little time playing checkers with Rae Carruth.
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Ruh roh. He may have to spend a little time playing checkers with Rae Carruth.
not even close....Hardy owned all those guys legally, her story isnt making much sense to me, this whole thing is a mess tho
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not even close....Hardy owned all those guys legally, her story isnt making much sense to me, this whole thing is a mess tho
what about the other womans 911 call that she says she personally saw Hardy beating the woman?
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