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Old 06-01-2014, 02:04 PM   #61
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Ugh not good news to hear about. Losing Jay Graham hurt a few years ago. I think all of our coaches are pretty good except for Sands and Robinson.
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Ugh not good news to hear about. Losing Jay Graham hurt a few years ago. I think all of our coaches are pretty good except for Sands and Robinson.
I think Sands is good from a coaching standpoint, but to say his recruiting leaves a lot to be desired would be a compliment.
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Which is a problem. Whether DS was a true RB or just a utility back, he would have helped with depth in 2015. As it turns out, we miss out on him after having a HUGE lead and now Williams (among other RBs this class) appears to be questionable at best. What's worse is Williams is an in-state guy, and a month ago we had a rather sizeable lead.

I just don't understand how this continues to happen. If we miss out on Williams and our other top RB targets this cycle, I can't wait to hear what the apologists have to say about that.
I was one of the guys that said I didn't think DS was ever going to be a every down back for us. I'm not sure that makes me an apologist. If we don't land a good back in this class, then I'm looking straight at Sands and blaming him. We're getting good players at every position now.....there's no excuse for us not to get a quality RB each year......I'm not talking about a 175 lb scat back.....I'm talking about a back that is big enough and durable enough to get 20 carries every game. If we miss on a RB this year, we better beg Wilds and Carson to stay through 2015 because David Williams won't be able to do it by himself. If we can't run, we become one dimensional and we'll have little chance to beat good teams that way. There's a reason all good teams can run.
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I was one of the guys that said I didn't think DS was ever going to be a every down back for us. I'm not sure that makes me an apologist. If we don't land a good back in this class, then I'm looking straight at Sands and blaming him. We're getting good players at every position now.....there's no excuse for us not to get a quality RB each year......I'm not talking about a 175 lb scat back.....I'm talking about a back that is big enough and durable enough to get 20 carries every game. If we miss on a RB this year, we better beg Wilds and Carson to stay through 2015 because David Williams won't be able to do it by himself. If we can't run, we become one dimensional and we'll have little chance to beat good teams that way. There's a reason all good teams can run.
Every down back or not, he helps with depth in 2015, which as it stands right now could essentially be non-existent. For the record, I'm not talking about a 175 pound back either. I'm talking about a true RB, such as Williams or Scarlett, but as it stands right now we could miss out on both. Not signing a RB for two straight classes is inexcusable and unacceptable.
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I thought one of the primary skills our RB coach was supposed to bring to the staff was his recruiting skills. This is definitely concerning....
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Well there's two trains of thought here.....there is the same poster on GCC that posted a couple of days ago that is close to the situation that now guarantees TW will not be a Gamecock for reasons given in several posts above......then there's Chris Clark that says TW has a top 3 that are tied....ND, Wisconsin and Carolina. So take your pick.
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I thought one of the primary skills our RB coach was supposed to bring to the staff was his recruiting skills. This is definitely concerning....
I've read the insiders that know him say he is a good coach but not a good recruiter.....
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Says ND leads & I'll take him at his word. That said, I'll believe he ends up at ND the day he enrolls or signs & not one day before that. South Bend is a less than appealing place to live & a long way from Sumter, SC.
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Military kid so I doubt distance is a huge factor for him.


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Sounds good...maybe we can do some recruiting magic....
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Ugh not good news to hear about. Losing Jay Graham hurt a few years ago. I think all of our coaches are pretty good except for Sands and Robinson.
This comment along with the recent Fla firing of Joker leads me to the following ?s:
staff turnover, be it they leave us, or we give them leave, is not if but when.
Does anyone consider possible circumstance where SS rehires a former staff member ( this presumes SS doesn't feel said staff "betrayed" him or anything of that nature)? If no why?
If yes then under what criteria do we rehire coach A or do we not consider rehiring coach B?
Given former staff are, for the most part, known material...ie coaches this or that well but not the other, is great, good, ordinary, poor, terrible recruiter, what regions he works best etc. etc. What criteria do you think would most likely lead to a rehire or not?
Specifically who do you think SS might consider rehiring ie. Joker, Graham etc.? thanks WVP
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This comment along with the recent Fla firing of Joker leads me to the following ?s:
staff turnover, be it they leave us, or we give them leave, is not if but when.
Does anyone consider possible circumstance where SS rehires a former staff member ( this presumes SS doesn't feel said staff "betrayed" him or anything of that nature)? If no why?
If yes then under what criteria do we rehire coach A or do we not consider rehiring coach B?
Given former staff are, for the most part, known material...ie coaches this or that well but not the other, is great, good, ordinary, poor, terrible recruiter, what regions he works best etc. etc. What criteria do you think would most likely lead to a rehire or not?
Specifically who do you think SS might consider rehiring ie. Joker, Graham etc.? thanks WVP
Did Joker ever work for Spurrier before?
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Did Joker ever work for Spurrier before?
No. Joker worked under Holtz at USC.
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IMO, this is USC's last shot.
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We are JUST getting off probation and Joker JUST gets busted for a recruiting violation. Snowball's chance in hell that he ends up back here anytime in the near future.
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Did Joker ever work for Spurrier before?
i stand corrected as I believe he predated SS. Still my ? isa not specific to him but includes any and all prev hires. Intending former SS staff but if former SC staff is considered so be it.
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IMO, this is USC's last shot.
In that case, let's hope we impress. Really need this one.
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Described his visit as "real good."
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I'm curious to see how this all works out. Bradrick Shaw and Williams both have good visits this week. Jordan Scarlett seems seriously interested in checking out the gamecocks as well. Last but not least we also have AJ Turner who has 100% CB picks to the gamecocks at the moment. How do ya'll see this playing out?
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I'm curious to see how this all works out. Bradrick Shaw and Williams both have good visits this week. Jordan Scarlett seems seriously interested in checking out the gamecocks as well. Last but not least we also have AJ Turner who has 100% CB picks to the gamecocks at the moment. How do ya'll see this playing out?
This doesn't really answer your question in terms of how I see it playing out, but I would be happy with any two of those, although it looks like Turner will be a Gamecock as things stand now.
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