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Old 06-02-2014, 09:59 AM   #661
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one last observation after "sleeping on it" and the baseball season over.

We need better strategy/execution during critical points in the game. That is both on coaches and players. The coaches need to make the right call PROACTIVELY during key points in the game. Then the players need to execute to that strategy.

And for god sake put a new coach on 3rd base who doesn't pinwheel his arm like Pete Townshend in a maniacal guitar solo when a guy is on second and a routine hit goes into left field.

that is all.
I wonder if you realize what you said in the bold text. You said (paraphrasing, of course), "The coaches need to make the right decisions before things happen, and the players need to get everything right." How can the first part of that ever happen? I mean, what if a coach makes what should have been the right decision, but something changes midstream to make the choice seem wrong? Also, it's nice to say, "...the players need to execute...," but players aren't going to be perfect all the time, and sometimes the other team's players execute a little better.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:20 AM   #662
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:39 AM   #663
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I wonder if you realize what you said in the bold text. You said (paraphrasing, of course), "The coaches need to make the right decisions before things happen, and the players need to get everything right." How can the first part of that ever happen? I mean, what if a coach makes what should have been the right decision, but something changes midstream to make the choice seem wrong? Also, it's nice to say, "...the players need to execute...," but players aren't going to be perfect all the time, and sometimes the other team's players execute a little better.
it's hard to pin it down...in the game thread over the last few days you could see it. pitcher gets hit 2 consecutive batters, bullpen is ready but the pitcher stays in for a righty/lefty matchup and gets lit up for 2 more runs, when bringing in a situational matchup probably should have been done. Or, we have situations where we are not tagging on fly balls, or we are not bunting people over a few games back then get into a "bunt everything" epidemic. My point about execution was that the coaches need to make the right calls but then the players need to execute them...not that they were not executing prior.

It's all should have, could have, would have...but when fans are calling for fundemental coaching strategies during a game because they are not happening, something is wrong.

Two managers come to mind when "making the right proactive calls" Ray and Bobby Cox.

I do agree that Chad may get there, hopefully.
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Ill tell you what I've heard on Pankake from a mutual friend…Been told that said friend's personal feeling is that Joey will come back because he loves the "college life" (you figure it out). Of course things change based on circumstances, so we shall see. Got no reason to lie to me though.
If that's why he wants to come back, I'd rather him just go pro. He's the one junior where I don't care if he leaves. Average defense, inconsistent bat, and doesn't seem to be a leader (on the field at least).
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:56 AM   #665
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Ill tell you what I've heard on Pankake from a mutual friend…Been told that said friend's personal feeling is that Joey will come back because he loves the "college life" (you figure it out). Of course things change based on circumstances, so we shall see. Got no reason to lie to me though.
Is it a given he would be a starter if he came back next year? I'm not sure this is a case of calling someone out, but based on what we have seen this year he isn't putting Mooney out at short, or Shrock at 2nd. Not so sure Arendas wouldn't beat him out at 3rd. No matter how good his throwing arm is, Pankake has made too many errors at key times to say you just give 3rd to him.

He isn't catching. Whatever experiments they've done with him at pitcher haven't amounted to much.

Is he going to beat out Cone, Bright, English (if he comes back), Caldwell, maybe one or two of the incoming freshmen in the outfield?

Just saying I can see him coming back, and not starting. Is his bat good enough to stick him at first over whoever else may be available?
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Old 06-02-2014, 04:49 PM   #666
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I hope you're kidding. Pankake was one the true offensive threats on this team.
4th in average
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4th in slugging
1st in OBP
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You think a guy with his numbers is gonna sit on a team as offensively challenged as ours? He's gone in the draft so it's a moot point but I can guarantee you that by some minor miracle he returns, he would not be sitting on the bench. He didn't sit the bench in 2012 on a team that made it to Omaha, & he dang sure wouldn't be sitting next year either.
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Old 06-02-2014, 05:42 PM   #667
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Two managers come to mind when "making the right proactive calls" Ray and Bobby Cox.
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Ray got it wrong more often than he got it right. It took Ray quite a few seasons to get it all figured out. Folks just don't remember that since those two trophies showed up.
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Old 06-02-2014, 06:30 PM   #668
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Is it a given he would be a starter if he came back next year? I'm not sure this is a case of calling someone out, but based on what we have seen this year he isn't putting Mooney out at short, or Shrock at 2nd. Not so sure Arendas wouldn't beat him out at 3rd. No matter how good his throwing arm is, Pankake has made too many errors at key times to say you just give 3rd to him.

He isn't catching. Whatever experiments they've done with him at pitcher haven't amounted to much.

Is he going to beat out Cone, Bright, English (if he comes back), Caldwell, maybe one or two of the incoming freshmen in the outfield?

Just saying I can see him coming back, and not starting. Is his bat good enough to stick him at first over whoever else may be available?
Ya um…He only had 10 errors in 130 chances…Thats not as bad as you make it out to be. And he was one of four full time starters with a batting average over .300 and was third on the team with 31 RBI. So ya his bat is pretty important.
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Old 06-02-2014, 07:19 PM   #669
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I seem to remember a few "Ray will never get it done it's time for us to move on" threads before he won it all.

Chad's well respected, and had we let him get away to coach another program there would be people here wondering why we didn't do more to keep him.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:42 AM   #670
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I seem to remember a few "Ray will never get it done it's time for us to move on" threads before he won it all.

Chad's well respected, and had we let him get away to coach another program there would be people here wondering why we didn't do more to keep him.
That's a chance I'd be willing to take, but I'm a gambling man.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:49 AM   #671
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Honestly, I think Greyson and English and all the rest could benefit from staying. If I was a player, it'd take me starting in AA to get me to leave.
Greyson benefits none from staying. He is like a rb, limited carries, he already has knee issues, he only has so many games left. He should go. English needs to stay in my opinion. He is not good enough at the plate yet, if he goes i understand. Pankake I could see leaving, he hits well. As far as fielding, him being at 3rd helped, but his throws to first are very inconsistant. I am surprised to see he only had 10 errors, he had 3 in the regional alone. Jo mo i dont see him benefitting from staying but i also dont it hurting him, as i dont see him ever getting much of a big league look.
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one last observation after "sleeping on it" and the baseball season over.

We need better strategy/execution during critical points in the game. That is both on coaches and players. The coaches need to make the right call PROACTIVELY during key points in the game. Then the players need to execute to that strategy.

And for god sake put a new coach on 3rd base who doesn't pinwheel his arm like Pete Townshend in a maniacal guitar solo when a guy is on second and a routine hit goes into left field.

that is all.

Go back to sleep please.....reread what you just said, in baseball where everything moves,so fast it is hard to know whats going to happen before it does.
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Pankake could use another year to increase his draft status... GG will be a high pick, Seddon will be too... English could be a top 10 round pick, but if he became a better contact hitter in 2015, he could be a top 5 rounder..
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