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Old 06-06-2014, 11:08 AM   #1
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:37 AM   #2
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Justification for the 'McCants Read' nickname.
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Old 06-06-2014, 12:12 PM   #3
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I believe McCants and am proud for him coming out and admitting the "paper classes" went on. He was one of my favorite players on the 2005 championship team, and I am glad he is doing the right thing by testifying that cheating went on.
Unfortunately, nothing will come of this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they on probation and if they were to get in trouble again that would mean the death penalty? Also, the NCAA doesn't want to do anything because admitting that this happened would also mean a black mark for them, since cheating at such a large scale without them knowing about it would be embarrassing and raise a lot of questions as to how they were not aware.
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I believe McCants and am proud for him coming out and admitting the "paper classes" went on. He was one of my favorite players on the 2005 championship team, and I am glad he is doing the right thing by testifying that cheating went on.
Unfortunately, nothing will come of this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they on probation and if they were to get in trouble again that would mean the death penalty? Also, the NCAA doesn't want to do anything because admitting that this happened would also mean a black mark for them, since cheating at such a large scale without them knowing about it would be embarrassing and raise a lot of questions as to how they were not aware.
There are too many people in high positions of the media and in the NCAA to put the hammer on UNC.
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This is sad. Tarholes are dirty of academic fraud and not a thing will be done to them. The NCAA is a joke. Miami should have been hammered as well.
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Old 06-06-2014, 01:14 PM   #7
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The local media seems on the fence as to calling McCants disgruntled and having a hard time not believing him with the statement of tudors and evidence that led to football coach Davis being fired. I've heard several ask how a president or AD does not come down on the football team and coach but let the basketball team and coach pass...The OTL could be interesting and put a ton of pressure on the University to take action, all of the allegations are almost proven to have taken place at the school for the football team during that investigation. The most substantial and game changing claim is that Roy Williams had knowledge and pushed players towards these improprieties.
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Old 06-06-2014, 01:16 PM   #8
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This could be big in recruiting the next couple years...
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This is sad. Tarholes are dirty of academic fraud and not a thing will be done to them. The NCAA is a joke. Miami should have been hammered as well.
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I've said since day one that the reason the NCAA didn't go harder after UNC is because they knew the scandal would eventually lead them to the basketball team, and that they had no intention of going down that road. It's obvious that UNC perpetuated system-wide academic fraud, and that everyone from the president down to the coaches knew about it. If this were almost any other school, they'd face the death penalty for what went on, but because it's UNC nothing will happen.

If I were UConn I'd sue. They've been on probation 4 out of the last 10 years for offenses much more minor than these.

The biggest irony of this is that the head of the NCAA fled his previous two jobs, at LSU and UConn, ahead of academic and financial scandals.

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Old 06-06-2014, 04:32 PM   #11
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Old 06-06-2014, 04:34 PM   #12
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Would Slive's proposed Div IV fix this issues? I know it would deal with the stupid NCAA rules but how much would a new division make sure these kids are going to classes?

I'm not sure what's more corrupt - the NCAA or FIFA.
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A few thoughts:

-McCants is not very reliable, as he has waited until his playing career is pretty much done to do this, and even mentions wanting to get a book deal out of this. Also, I'm pretty sure he didn't like Roy.

-This is a blatant case of class rigging for sure, but it is pretty naive to think this isn't pretty darn common. I would guess USC has provided "help" to many a athlete over the years, as does most every competitive school. Maybe it hasn't gone as far as it did at UNC, or maybe it did. There is definitely a gray area that has to be tempting given the money involved here.

-UNC sucks.
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-McCants is not very reliable, as he has waited until his playing career is pretty much done to do this, and even mentions wanting to get a book deal out of this. Also, I'm pretty sure he didn't like Roy.

-This is a blatant case of class rigging for sure, but it is pretty naive to think this isn't pretty darn common. I would guess USC has provided "help" to many a athlete over the years, as does most every competitive school. Maybe it hasn't gone as far as it did at UNC, or maybe it did. There is definitely a gray area that has to be tempting given the money involved here.

-UNC sucks.
Im not stupid enough to believe to that this kinda stuff doesn't happen at every big time school, bout i kinda feel like it happens more at schools like UNC simply because of the "academic prestige" the put out there.
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Yeah, as Headcockfan said, McCants' whole family has it out for Roy* (and he called UNC a prison while he was there), so he isn't the best witness. That said, I hate UNC fans more than any other and will enjoy watching them panic and react. This implicates the 2005 championship and current coach, so I expect all-out warfare. JR Reid and some other former heels are already firing missiles. It'll be interesting to watch.

Pack Pride, of course, will feature prominently in this war. We Duke fans prefer to just watch with glee.

* McCanys was recruited by Doh before he was fired at UNC and Roy was hired, and McCants' father has accused Roy of telling NBA teams to stay away from McCants.
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This could be big in recruiting the next couple years...
You would think so. Every time I bring it up people jump all over me that it won't affect recruiting at all. How UNC can still be considered a better academic school by certain recruits absolutely BOGGLES my mind. If I were hiring someone right now and they were a UNC athlete I would throw their resume in the garbage. There is such a thing as guilt by association, I can't be sure you did ANYTHING to actually earn that degree.
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Eh, UNC will still get tons of top recruits.
Most those kids they get care about the NBA not school.
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He sometimes takes a while to show his face, but, Mikey G, there's a God after all.
Just hate like hell you were one of the lambs sacrificed to keep a twisted dream alive.
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-McCants is not very reliable, as he has waited until his playing career is pretty much done to do this, and even mentions wanting to get a book deal out of this. Also, I'm pretty sure he didn't like Roy.

-This is a blatant case of class rigging for sure, but it is pretty naive to think this isn't pretty darn common. I would guess USC has provided "help" to many a athlete over the years, as does most every competitive school. Maybe it hasn't gone as far as it did at UNC, or maybe it did. There is definitely a gray area that has to be tempting given the money involved here.

-UNC sucks.
The thing about UNC and their apologists is that for decades they have sold
"The Carolina Way" as their way of winning on the court and graduating their players with a world class education. It is and has been nothing more than a sham and a fraud. UNC fans simply cannot have it both ways. They cannot be allowed to say "It happens everywhere" when they have lived by looking down at everyone else with their "Carolina Way."
Even now, they are trying to say that they should be the ones to lead for reform. Really?? Shall crooks lead on reforms for now on? Shall Madoff lead on financial reforms? I think not.

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