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Old 06-10-2014, 10:28 AM   #121
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Four VT predictions this morning. Awesome.
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Shuburtt might know something. All the others are just band-wagoners.

But again, for the 1,000,000th time, can we blame a kid for wanting to stay close to home??
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He's staying in state...the Deke haters will be out in full force soon
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VaTech makes the most sense....that's where all the kids go that grow up in the western part of Va.
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VaTech makes the most sense....that's where all the kids go that grow up in the western part of Va.
Really wondering if we really gave him a commitable offer or if the slow playing just nipped us.
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Really wondering if we really gave him a commitable offer or if the slow playing just nipped us.
I'm guessing the first is not true.
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He's staying in state...the Deke haters will be out in full force soon
Can't really fault Deke on this one. Although he is listed as the primary recruiter we all know who pulls the strings with offensive line recruiting. USC gave it a good run for a kid in tough area to recruit. Hopefully we can lock down Hatton, Bailey, and maybe try to make a push for Pellage/Merrick/Jurkovic and close with Sandifer. Looks like Abdul Bello and Matthew Burrell will be on campus too. Lots of guys out there to go after.
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Did he wake up this morning and realize VT was actually in state? Funny that it was us and UT, then all of a sudden he's staying in state.
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Did he wake up this morning and realize VT was actually in state? Funny that it was us and UT, then all of a sudden he's staying in state.
It appears it was UT or stay home for him. I don't think he really had any intentions of coming this far South. He had a great time during his visit but things do wear off over time. I think the writing started to show when he visited UT for a second time and then the "surprise" visit to VaTech.

Who knows though, maybe he is just creating a bunch of drama.
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Guys at rivals think he picks to SC
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First I am not a Deke hater, nor fan. He is still a maybe for me with time, tho limited, to demonstrate fan-lyness results (?) I have no more idea where this kid chooses than most of you.

It seems we less often win a kid based on superior recruiting skills such as relationship with HC or position coach. That seems to be the reason so many posters revert to the "if we can get him in for a visit then". It seems then we are able to demonstrate our strenths, player development, the overall program etc. and none of that is a bad thing.

Recruiting per say has never been considered SS's strenth nor a comparitive emphasis to other aspects of his job and it ddddoesn't surprise anyone that staff members to a great degree mimic his emphasis as one would expect.

BUT it seems during most of his tenure at SC he has at least one established ringer who was compared to the best nationally by objective minds and recognized accordingly as well as usually at least one up and comer on staff. We haven't had either since the RC left to join his father and later the RB coach left for UT. GM may get there??
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First I am not a Deke hater, nor fan. He is still a maybe for me with time, tho limited, to demonstrate fan-lyness results (?) I have no more idea where this kid chooses than most of you.

It seems we less often win a kid based on superior recruiting skills such as relationship with HC or position coach. That seems to be the reason so many posters revert to the "if we can get him in for a visit then". It seems then we are able to demonstrate our strenths, player development, the overall program etc. and none of that is a bad thing.

Recruiting per say has never been considered SS's strenth nor a comparitive emphasis to other aspects of his job and it ddddoesn't surprise anyone that staff members to a great degree mimic his emphasis as one would expect.

BUT it seems during most of his tenure at SC he has at least one established ringer who was compared to the best nationally by objective minds and recognized accordingly as well as usually at least one up and comer on staff. We haven't had either since the RC left to join his father and later the RB coach left for UT. GM may get there??
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First I am not a Deke hater, nor fan. He is still a maybe for me with time, tho limited, to demonstrate fan-lyness results (?) I have no more idea where this kid chooses than most of you.

It seems we less often win a kid based on superior recruiting skills such as relationship with HC or position coach. That seems to be the reason so many posters revert to the "if we can get him in for a visit then". It seems then we are able to demonstrate our strenths, player development, the overall program etc. and none of that is a bad thing.

Recruiting per say has never been considered SS's strenth nor a comparitive emphasis to other aspects of his job and it ddddoesn't surprise anyone that staff members to a great degree mimic his emphasis as one would expect.

BUT it seems during most of his tenure at SC he has at least one established ringer who was compared to the best nationally by objective minds and recognized accordingly as well as usually at least one up and comer on staff. We haven't had either since the RC left to join his father and later the RB coach left for UT. GM may get there??
The last paragraph makes very little sense to me.....never once have I thought of Ron Cooper as an elite recruiter
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We've got some excellent recruiters on this staff. The weakness is the large disparity between the ones at the top (Whammy, Elliott, Mangus) & the ones at the bottom. Everybody needs to carry their share of the water, some of these guys need to pick it up.
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I don't follow recruiting religiously, but I follow it fairly closely and I would say Lorenzo Ward does a pretty good job recruiting the Georgia kids. He's pulled in some really good talent out of the Atlanta area and many of them mention their relationship with Ward as a big factor for why they chose USC.
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That is correct & were he to leave this staff it would likely become real apparent, real fast, how critical he is to this program.
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That is correct & were he to leave this staff it would likely become real apparent, real fast, how critical he is to this program.
He will at some point. Every year he has an excellent defense puts him closer to a head coaching job.

Something interesting about him though, does he limit himself to the southeast when he does consider another job? To leverage his recruiting connections, particularly in Georgia?

And would he only consider BCS type jobs, or would he take something like Northern Arkansas, a la Malzahn?

That makes me think of the Chad honestly. I'm not in his shoes, and I don't know if he is the kind of guy that flubs interviews. But you can stay on as a coordinator too long if your goal is a head job. Bud Foster is exhibit A for that, if he ever really did want a head job.

At some point you have to take something, even if it isn't your dream.
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I think he's meaning Recruiting Coordinator, not Ron Cooper....he was referring to Shane Beamer - who was USC's Recruiting Coordinator - returning to join his father Frank at VT....
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