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Old 06-10-2014, 03:05 PM   #141
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I think he's meaning Recruiting Coordinator, not Ron Cooper....he was referring to Shane Beamer - who was USC's Recruiting Coordinator - returning to join his father Frank at VT....
yes that. sorry for confusion.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:32 PM   #142
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I don't follow recruiting religiously, but I follow it fairly closely and I would say Lorenzo Ward does a pretty good job recruiting the Georgia kids. He's pulled in some really good talent out of the Atlanta area and many of them mention their relationship with Ward as a big factor for why they chose USC.
Not saying Ward isn't good and isn't the best, or one of, amoungst our staff. Every staff has some who are better than the rest and as some state he would be missed were he to leave.

said, or meant to, so far as I am aware we don't have anyone who is recognized by objective minds as currently elite or young and likely to be (elite). and in some past SS staffs we have had one or both.

Given SS emphasis and comparitive strenths lie elsewhere it seemed having said on staff helped to round out the staff overall and clearly showed in recruiting those 07-11 classes on which our resent success was based.

remember the quality of those classes and then take into account our staff at that time had neither on field success nor upgraded facilities nor a long term committment from SS to remain with which to sell our program while facing Tn, GA and Fl programs at thier zenith. pretty darn remarkable IMHO.

seems our total overall program gains in the hands of such recruiters as SB in combination with the other tools at our current staffs disposal might birth applicable, even extrodinary results.

I know some will say we must go with who we have, which is true. But the reason those individuals are not on staff is because staff turnover is a given. Change isn't if but when. The ? I present is a belief our overall program will benifitt should being a national level recruiting "ringer" so to speak be primary requirment in his ( next guy) tool set (good special teams coach a nice 2nd).
Maybe you agree maybe not.
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When is he supposed to announce?
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Old 06-10-2014, 07:24 PM   #145
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Yes. Sometime around 6:00. Mike Farrell still says us.
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Old 06-10-2014, 07:50 PM   #146
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Kornblut posted an article that he basically already knows and will be notifying the other schools tonight and tomorrow, and announce Thursday....
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all the cb predictions have trended toward VT today.
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Mike Farrell said earlier today that he still thinks it's us, but he's wrong as much as he is right, who knows.
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Not saying Ward isn't good and isn't the best, or one of, amoungst our staff. Every staff has some who are better than the rest and as some state he would be missed were he to leave.

said, or meant to, so far as I am aware we don't have anyone who is recognized by objective minds as currently elite or young and likely to be (elite). and in some past SS staffs we have had one or both.

Given SS emphasis and comparitive strenths lie elsewhere it seemed having said on staff helped to round out the staff overall and clearly showed in recruiting those 07-11 classes on which our resent success was based.

remember the quality of those classes and then take into account our staff at that time had neither on field success nor upgraded facilities nor a long term committment from SS to remain with which to sell our program while facing Tn, GA and Fl programs at thier zenith. pretty darn remarkable IMHO.

seems our total overall program gains in the hands of such recruiters as SB in combination with the other tools at our current staffs disposal might birth applicable, even extrodinary results.

I know some will say we must go with who we have, which is true. But the reason those individuals are not on staff is because staff turnover is a given. Change isn't if but when. The ? I present is a belief our overall program will benifitt should being a national level recruiting "ringer" so to speak be primary requirment in his ( next guy) tool set (good special teams coach a nice 2nd).
Maybe you agree maybe not.
IMO, Ward and Elliott are two of the best in the bizz. Jay Graham was one I really hated losing, as well as Beamer...but it's hard to fault them for leaving for the places they did. The way the Jay Graham situation played out really irked me. As for coaching/recruiting losing Lawing was a big, big blow.
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IMO, Ward and Elliott are two of the best in the bizz. Jay Graham was one I really hated losing, as well as Beamer...but it's hard to fault them for leaving for the places they did. The way the Jay Graham situation played out really irked me. As for coaching/recruiting losing Lawing was a big, big blow.
Losing Lawing was a bigger blow than what most people at the time wanted to admit. He was a hell of a recruiter who probably developed talent as good as any coach.
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:35 PM   #151
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Losing Lawing was a bigger blow than what most people at the time wanted to admit. He was a hell of a recruiter who probably developed talent as good as any coach.
I certainly think Lawning was a good coach, but I've never heard anyone say he was a good recruiter....he may have been earlier in his career, but questionable as he got older.
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OL Austin Clark of Lexington, VA said Monday night his decision between USC, Tennessee, Virginia Tech and Ohio State has been made. “I’m pretty confident I know what I’m going to do,” said Clark who will notify the winning school Tuesday or Wednesday and then announce his choice publicly on local TV Thursday shortly after 6:00 PM.
“After taking all these visits the past couple of weeks (USC, Tennessee, Virginia Tech) I saw a few more things and got to think about a few more things. The thing that stuck out with me the most was how comfortable I was not only with the coaching staff but also with the facilities, the academic staff, that sort of thing.”
Clark did his homework on all his finalists and thus has a high level of confidence that his decision is the right one for him.
“I definitely think I’ve made the right choice,” Clark said. “Talked it over with my parents and they agree with me that I’ve made the right choice. I really confident and real excited to get in there and start working my butt off.”
Though he had four schools floating thru his mind over the past few weeks, Clark said he actually cut things down to just two schools before picking the winner. And it all came to him last weekend while he was in Baltimore for a camp.
“I’d say this past weekend I was really torn between two of the schools,” Clark said. “I don’t know really what it was that made itself clear that I wanted to go to the one I picked. It just made itself clear.”
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:55 PM   #153
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sounds like Va Tech to me
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Certainly trending that way.
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I think he's meaning Recruiting Coordinator, not Ron Cooper....he was referring to Shane Beamer - who was USC's Recruiting Coordinator - returning to join his father Frank at VT....
good call I didnt read that well at all....it makes a lot more sense that way lol
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As for coaching/recruiting losing Lawing was a big, big blow.

I don't think we've missed Lawing one bit, coaching OR recruiting-wise.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but as I remember we skirted trouble because he was contacting recruits during no-contact times, and he was apparently the reason we lost Carlos Dunlap to UF.
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Losing Lawing was a bigger blow than what most people at the time wanted to admit. He was a hell of a recruiter who probably developed talent as good as any coach.
Simply not true on the first half of this post. He wasn't a great recruiter. Great DL development coach, but not a good recruiter.
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I don't think we've missed Lawing one bit, coaching OR recruiting-wise.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but as I remember we skirted trouble because he was contacting recruits during no-contact times, and he was apparently the reason we lost Carlos Dunlap to UF.
The rumor on the Dunlap thing was that Dunlap was a silent to us. He wanted to visit uf, Lawing was pissed and drinking and he called Dunlap about it. We lost Dunlap.
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TM with a CB for Carolina today.

Farrell said Carolina as well.

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I wonder if Shurburtt changes his pick? He runs the VaTech 247 site (or did).
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