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Old 06-15-2014, 12:12 PM   #41
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Bash them all you want, but Auburn is a great road trip. Unreal fans and great atmosphere. I've had Clemson fans tell me they're Auburn X2.

I laughed.
No one is saying they don't have good fans or a tough place to play, but it's all aided when you pay for players. Clemson fans may be auburn 2.0 when you consider they stole all their traditions, including buying titles...
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There is nothing wrong with giving kids that make stupid decisions a second chance. Some kids just need more structure, others need that father figure.

However Auburn is doing it, legal or not, none of the kids they bring in who have had troubled pasts are messing up again.

Cam stole a lap top. That's correctable behavior, he was a charismatic kid and a hard worker. I would have just fine if he chose to represent The University of South Carolina because we would have provided him with the structure he needed.
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No one is saying they don't have good fans or a tough place to play, but it's all aided when you pay for players. Clemson fans may be auburn 2.0 when you consider they stole all their traditions, including buying titles...
Auburn hasn't been on probation since the early 90s. You are just now coming off of probation, glass houses and all.
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Liar liar pants on fire!

That's the difference between being a fan of a team and being an alumnus. I like to win, but I care more about the reputation of my school than I do wins in athletic events.
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Auburn hasn't been on probation since the early 90s. You are just now coming off of probation, glass houses and all.

There is a difference between having several minor violations that together warrant a penalty versus actually paying players to play. The early 90s? Didn't Terry Bowden have an unbeaten team that couldn't play for any kind of champonship because of recruiting violations? It looks like the only reason they don't get kicked out of football is because they have done it so much they have perfected it.
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Yeah, I misread the stats, though 9th over the past 50 years.

Where are you getting that number from?
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Where are you getting that number from?
http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/...=on&by=Win+Pct

Though, that was 1955 to 2011.
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Damn man...you keep changing the parameters! If we change it to 2013, Auburn drops to 11th.

There's not much of a shuffle no matter how the dates are set. The biggest change in the last fifty years are the Virginia schools dropping out of the top 15 and the Florida schools coming in (along with Boise State.)

The '80's were very good to Auburn program. I believe the Tigers were a top ten team in wins during that decade.
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Damn man...you keep changing the parameters! If we change it to 2013, Auburn drops to 11th.

There's not much of a shuffle no matter how the dates are set. The biggest change in the last fifty years are the Virginia schools dropping out of the top 15 and the Florida schools coming in (along with Boise State.)

The '80's were very good to Auburn program. I believe the Tigers were a top ten team in wins during that decade.
National Champs in '83 and SEC champions in 87,88 and 89 :P
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National Champs in '83 and SEC champions in 87,88 and 89 :P
Miami was the consensus #1 in 1983, winning in both the AP and Coaches Poll. So, no, auburn didn't win it in 1983.

Here's another great rebuke of Auburn titles being bogus claims.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...nship/9188121/

By Auburns standards, Notre Dame leads all of football with 20+ titles.
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National Champs in '83 and SEC champions in 87,88 and 89 :P
What selection group is being used for 1983?

The '83 season is an interesting one. Auburn (11-1) lost to Texas (also with one loss that season: UGA in bowl game.) Miami gets the vote from the two major polls with a loss to Florida—a team Auburn beat.

The way the SEC awarded the designation of conference champions in those years makes me glad there's an SECCG now. (Though I hate teams claiming divisional titles—this isn't MLB for gods sake...but I digress.) Take 1988 as example. Auburn is recognized as co-champs with LSU even though they lost to LSU in the regular season. Both ended the season with one conference loss; LSU to UF a team Auburn beat.

1989 isn't any better: it's shared by UT, Bama, and AU. Bama lost to AU, UT lost to Bama, AU lost to UT. All three end with one conference loss.

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What selection group is being used for 1983?

The '83 season is an interesting one. Auburn (11-1) lost to Texas (also with one loss that season: UGA in bowl game.) Miami gets the vote from the two major polls with a loss to Florida—a team Auburn beat.

The way the SEC awarded the designation of conference champions in those years makes me glad there's an SECCG now. (Though I had teams claiming divisional titles—this isn't MLB for gods sake...but I digress.) Take 1988 as example. Auburn is recognized as co-champs with LSU even though they lost to LSU in the regular season. Both ended the season with one conference loss; LSU to UF a team Auburn beat.

1989 isn't any better: it's shared by UT, Bama, and AU. Bama lost to AU, UT lost to Bama, AU lost to UT. All three end with one conference loss.
Yup, those were the good ole days.
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This cannot be good for the chemistry on Georgia's team. Richt has his hands full.
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