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Old 06-16-2014, 11:42 AM   #681
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I'm probably crazy for thinking this but I believe that Norris Cole would flourish on another team. I think he has a lot of ability.
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I'm probably crazy for thinking this but I believe that Norris Cole would flourish on another team. I think he has a lot of ability.
He would be great on a team that wouldn't need him to do as much as the heat.

He would fit in with the Pacers

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Old 06-16-2014, 12:12 PM   #683
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He's not the best player any more. Durant was better than him and by a sizable margin. Check the stats. Check the trophy case.

And LeBron is a quitter. Sure he'll go all in for a quarter, but then he quits. He always disappears down the stretch. Hell he was on the bench the last 6-7 minutes of tonight's game. QUITTER.
Check the trophy case, step away from the Meth and brush your teeth! I love Durant and he had a great year but he is not the best player by a sizable margin, this is the first year his and LeBron's numbers are very similar. James was better on the offensive glass, shot a better percentage from the field, dished out more assists...Durant scored more, got more total rebounds and shot a better % from 3....They both had great seasons but just like LeBron, Durant can't get in the conversation as best player without a ring!
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He's not the best player any more. Durant was better than him and by a sizable margin. Check the stats. Check the trophy case.

And LeBron is a quitter. Sure he'll go all in for a quarter, but then he quits. He always disappears down the stretch. Hell he was on the bench the last 6-7 minutes of tonight's game. QUITTER.
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Lebron needs to go back to Cleveland and play with Kyrie and all that 1st round talent they are assembling .... kidding, kind of.

I could see the Spurs repeating. I haven't looked at the FA candidates but I'm guessing the core team is coming back and we all know they are going to draft well. I'm also sure they have some Euros stashed away overseas that are ready to come over to the states.
Only Mills and Diaw are Free agents. So yea the core returning with an emerging superstar in Leonard.

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The heat cannot continue in its current form. Too many old players.

And its really sad to see a great player who relied on just being physically better than everyone else suddenly lose that athleticism. He can't elevate anymore and all those little moves that worked before are now desperate plays that don't work against even lesser players.

That is dwyane Wade.

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You're right! I've said it all along. Wade is the weak point and it was exposed in the finals. He can't play a full season as that puts too much on LeBron. And if Wade wants a max deal, which is rumored, with Miami that is going to be very uncomfortable when Riley has to tell him to take less or take a hike. He is nothing more than a role player now.

What needs to happen to tweak this team is Wade opt out and take significantly less $ so that they can add some pieces around LeBron. But if he and Bosh decide they won't take less $ then I don't see how LeBron can stay knowing he doesn't have the help and he will have to carry the team to the Finals again only to lose to a better team from the West
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pretty much every spur played better than they did in last year's finals, but the role players especially. even last night, parker/green go 7-22 as the starting backcourt, while ginobili/mills put up 36 points.

the heat went into this season losing mike miller while picking up beasley/oden. two young guys who had the potential to give the team something it lacked as well as some youth in areas they were lacking youth, neither move worked for the playoff rotation. their only two young guys in the rotation, chalmers and cole had no impact on the series.

i remember going into the season on numbers never lie they had a stat that no team had ever won a title with an avg team age as high as the heat.

It was hilarious watching mil miller in the playoffs last year because he was all g impy but still playing quality seconds and still hitting shots
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Celebratory river parade set for Wednesday. It's a unique experience. Most of San Antonio takes off work and 100,000+ line the length of the Riverwalk as players, coaches and ex-playes float by in barges.
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That was just a damn impressive series by the Spurs.
Also proved teams win basketball, not superstars.
I have not seen an offense just pick a part, manipulate and almost toy with a D the way the Spurs did in virtually every game.
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If LeBron stays in Miami the Heat will still compete for championships
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As stated, this is a repeat of Lebron when he lost to the Celtics in 2010...he had absolutely no help. It's pathetic to see a team lack the emotion in the NBA Finals. None of them wanted to be there and you could tell none of them thought they could win.
You are right.
James came out and scored close to 20 the first quarter...don't know what else you can expect from him.
Wade just doesn't have the knees anymore...Bosh is just a tall swing man, and doesn't give them a player in the paint.

Allen and Battier are retiring...Norris Cole is under used.

I like Haslem, but he is also past his prime.

Chalmers is ok, but he is not an elite PG, nor does he play on a system that let's him run an offense.

Beasley, overrated.

Chris Anderson gives you nothing on offense and isn't the same guy that played in Denver.

Rashard Lewis is nothing more than a spot up 3 point specialist.

Greg Oden sadly just doesn't have the knees either.

The point is, you look at their bench, no one scares you.
You look in the post, no one gives them a legit threat (Spurs had Duncan, Diaw and Splitter)

The Heat are going to be overhauled...and the only two I see not on the chopping block are Wade and James ..Wade because he has been with the organization his whole career, and James because he is the best player in the game right now.

You look at the roster...9 guys have 10 or more years in league with only 5 with 5 or less.

Simply put..an old, beat up roster with virtually no bench help.

Compare to the Spurs...4 guys with 10+ years...Three startes, Green, Leonard and Splitter, are young, as are Patty Mills and Belinelli.

The Spurs issue though is that the main guys (Duncan, Parker and Ginobili) are all over 32...Parker may have 4 good years left, while Ginobili may have two...I think Duncan may have 1 left.

Finally...coaching...Greg Poppovich flat out coached, schemed and outsmarted Spoelstra...and I think it got revealed what Spoelstra really is...an average coach who had top-flight talent.

The Spurs ran actually offensive sets and targeted weakspots in the Heat D...the Heat O ran isolation basketball most of the series. The Heat, along with retooling their roster, may want to get a guy who actually coaches.
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They won't win them. Not with that team.
They'll have to retool of course but as long as you have LeBron you have a chance.
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Talking about no help. LeBron led his team in every that except blocks in the finals
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Check the trophy case, step away from the Meth and brush your teeth! I love Durant and he had a great year but he is not the best player by a sizable margin, this is the first year his and LeBron's numbers are very similar. James was better on the offensive glass, shot a better percentage from the field, dished out more assists...Durant scored more, got more total rebounds and shot a better % from 3....They both had great seasons but just like LeBron, Durant can't get in the conversation as best player without a ring!

Durant had more PPG, more RPG, had a better PER, had more win shares, had a higher Offensive Rating, a lower Defensive rating, and has one more mvp from this season.

Durant was better on both the offensive and defensive ends.
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Only Mills and Diaw are Free agents. So yea the core returning with an emerging superstar in Leonard.



You're right! I've said it all along. Wade is the weak point and it was exposed in the finals. He can't play a full season as that puts too much on LeBron. And if Wade wants a max deal, which is rumored, with Miami that is going to be very uncomfortable when Riley has to tell him to take less or take a hike. He is nothing more than a role player now.

What needs to happen to tweak this team is Wade opt out and take significantly less $ so that they can add some pieces around LeBron. But if he and Bosh decide they won't take less $ then I don't see how LeBron can stay knowing he doesn't have the help and he will have to carry the team to the Finals again only to lose to a better team from the West

The bolded is not a rumor, it's a fact. He has the option to either keep his current max contract or opt out of it. I don't see him opting out and resigning for less.
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