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Old 06-17-2014, 12:38 PM   #141
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So okay, I tried yesterday. I still found that game somewhat boring. I know the rules of soccer but strategy is something I don't understand. I know the US hired that German coach and he is supposed to be really good, but the whole game it appeared that Ghana was better coached and had some sort of game plan as to what they wanted to do. The US seemed to just kick it to the other end and hope someone would out run the defenders. I didn't see the first goal but the second was a good play but can you rely on corner kicks the whole time. Not trying to bash but was what I saw wrong. Was Ghana not running plays or some sort of motion offense like basketball and US hoping to score on fast breaks?
it is hard for the US to run any soft of offense when they continuously were giving the ball away in the midfield. The defense was worn the f out and players like Bradley need to get their shit together in future games
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Nah, no "plays" were being run. YOu have a gameplan. Ghana's gameplan was to push th eball down the sideline and cross it in to the middle in order to score.

You're right, Ghana played better and were FAR more aggressive.

We had an off-night. Michael Bradley (the bald guy with yellow shoes) is USUALLY a rock in the middle but he was VERY poor last night and that is rare. Honestly, we couldn't hold the ball in the midfield so it's hard to get into any attacking rhythm...

Remember CLemson vs USC in November? Clemson couldn't get anything going in the 4th quarter bc of turnovers...same thing except USMNT is not consistently bad like Boyd & co.

Happy fro 3 points but we'd better shape up.
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Not a "moral victory" bc we WON....as piss poorly as we played we beat a really GOOD Ghana team...encouraging.
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Nah, no "plays" were being run. YOu have a gameplan. Ghana's gameplan was to push th eball down the sideline and cross it in to the middle in order to score.

You're right, Ghana played better and were FAR more aggressive.

We had an off-night. Michael Bradley (the bald guy with yellow shoes) is USUALLY a rock in the middle but he was VERY poor last night and that is rare. Honestly, we couldn't hold the ball in the midfield so it's hard to get into any attacking rhythm...

Remember CLemson vs USC in November? Clemson couldn't get anything going in the 4th quarter bc of turnovers...same thing except USMNT is not consistently bad like Boyd & co.

Happy fro 3 points but we'd better shape up.
Why is it three points we only scored two?
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It matters in the group standings. You get 3 points for a W, 1 point for a draw. Goals matter for tiebreak I believe.
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:00 PM   #146
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It matters in the group standings. You get 3 points for a W, 1 point for a draw. Goals matter for tiebreak I believe.
So if you lose is it neg 3?
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Why is it three points we only scored two?
We scored 2 goals.

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There are 3 games in this Group stage of the World Cup (We play Ghana, Portugal, and Germany). SO, the max points are 9. We now have 3 points and Germany has 3 points. Portugal and Ghana with 0. Tie breaker after points is goal differential. Which is total goals scored minus goals given up.

The top 2 teams from our group go to the next round which works basically like Mach Madness except you start at the sweet 16.

We now have a decent shot at making it to the next round. Which would be a HUGE accomplishment for this team as our group is VERY difficult.
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You get no points and get pinged in the goal differential column.
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:16 PM   #149
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:40 PM   #150
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We can't play like we did last night and expect to win another game. Advancing to the next round would be a huge accomplishment. There are some really good teams out there...
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CockDiesel, you should definitely check out a bar where there are some American Outlaws...the energy is, imho...better than Gamecocks on gameday...not comparing but the explosions of joy are nuts.
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I don't know about that, Portugal may very well be the worse team in our group.
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We play like that and give Ronaldo THAT many chances, we will lose.
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We were not suppossed to play defensive vs Ghana but we did.

It was an ugly win but is a win.

If we tie Portugal playing defensive we are most likely to go to the ko round, then anything can happen.

Expect another ugly game (maybe boring) game vs Portugal, Portugal is gone come at us with all they got.

If the coach doesn't make it out of the group, I'm sure he will get fired.
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I"m assuming you mean Portugals coach. He should have been fired already. Portugal has consistently underperformed and they have one of the top 4 players in the world on their team who ONLY had 15 touches Monday.

Their defense is on par with the US but they all have experience and play at top notch teams.
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In my opinion, if Klisnmann doesn't make it out of the group, he should get fired.

Portugal will be missing their top defenders Pepe who got a red card and Coentrao with an injury Ronaldo has an injury and he is not 100%.

Klisnmann have to make it out of the group, that is what good coaches do.
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No offense but that's stupid. A revolving door at the coaching position is what handicaps inexperienced teams.
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Although I now think it is apparent he should have put LD on the roster. He could have left him on the bench for good unless he had a disaster...as we did last night with Altidores hammy. I hope Wondo or Aron J. Prove me wrong.
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Donovan isn't a sub for Altidore. Donovan is at best an attacking winger or attacking midfielder, but since he doesn't defend he's considered more of a forward
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