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Old 06-17-2014, 08:18 AM   #621
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If Dexter Neal keeps talking to other schools i.e. UGA, I'd love to take Irvin Charles.
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Something I don't get is Sawyer's situation.

He is in junior college with another prospect we are recruiting correct?

So exactly how is he eligible for next year's class? I've seen him listed a number of times as someone we are recruiting for the upcoming signing class, but how does that work? Doesn't he need to finish junior college first?
The SEC JUCO transfer rule states that a JUCO player must be at the JUCO for 3 consecutive semesters (not including summer classes.) Sawyer graduated HS early and enrolled in the JUCO this past Spring. So after the '15 Spring semester (and given that he'll pass his classes and get the necessary GPA) he'll be able to enroll at SC in either Maymester or Summer I.

A lot of JUCO's graduate in December and then transfer to their D1 school in January. Sawyer can't do that b/c of the 3 semester rule.

I think the recruiting sites have said they won't put him on this year's Commit list until he proves he's on track to get here next summer. We'll know a lot more after the fall semester. If his grades look good then and he's on track to be eligible after the '15 Spring semester, I would expect the sites to add him to the commit list then.
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This was from a free article I found about DJ Neal. He did well at a 7v7 camp at uglay this weekend. They haven't offered yet though.

Neal was solid all morning and afternoon Friday in Athens. The South Carolina commit is a physical wide receiver and he showed he can catch the ball in traffic Friday. He took balls away from defenders and he went up to get the ball when needed. He made key plays for the championship team.
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This was from a free article I found about DJ Neal. He did well at a 7v7 camp at uglay this weekend. They haven't offered yet though.

Neal was solid all morning and afternoon Friday in Athens. The South Carolina commit is a physical wide receiver and he showed he can catch the ball in traffic Friday. He took balls away from defenders and he went up to get the ball when needed. He made key plays for the championship team.
By no means do we allow a "trade" of Dexter for Irvin; moreover, we should try to get(keep?) both!
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By no means do we allow a "trade" of Dexter for Irvin; moreover, we should try to get(keep?) both!
I never said we should "trade". My statement was based off the fact UGA is somewhat courting him and he's reciprocating. Charles isn't a guaranteed take at the moment, which I'm somewhat shocked with him being a "big" receiver, and that's what Bubba wants in this class. He needs a couple of trees.
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Trees that can run. I believe Bubba is quoted saying that they don't want a tall guy that can't move.

Product of having success with the Florida-type receivers recently, IMO.
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I never said we should "trade". My statement was based off the fact UGA is somewhat courting him and he's reciprocating. Charles isn't a guaranteed take at the moment, which I'm somewhat shocked with him being a "big" receiver, and that's what Bubba wants in this class. He needs a couple of trees.
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Trees that can run. I believe Bubba is quoted saying that they don't want a tall guy that can't move.

Product of having success with the Florida-type receivers recently, IMO.
My apologies for insinuating that you suggested a "trade".

Have we looked at Devante Peete from St. Thomas Aquinas? Curious as I think we are having some success with that school.

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The SEC JUCO transfer rule states that a JUCO player must be at the JUCO for 3 consecutive semesters (not including summer classes.) Sawyer graduated HS early and enrolled in the JUCO this past Spring. So after the '15 Spring semester (and given that he'll pass his classes and get the necessary GPA) he'll be able to enroll at SC in either Maymester or Summer I.

A lot of JUCO's graduate in December and then transfer to their D1 school in January. Sawyer can't do that b/c of the 3 semester rule.
In this case I don't think it matters too much. The only thing he'll really miss is spring ball and S&C in the spring semester. He'd still be there for Fall '15 (and the season).
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Even if we hang on to the four receivers we have, I hope Charles is a part of the class because of the offensive turnover that's going to happen next season. I think the three we got in 2014 combined with what we currently have for 2015 is a great group, but the depth is probably needed. Jones and Byrd are gone, with a big year Roland could be gone, and Jeffery and Brent seem talented but are unknowns. Plus, if he can move, Charles as a big receiver would add a great balance.
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We certainly got hurt at DE with the 2014 class. How bad is still to be determined. The latest offer to me screams that one or more of the borderline guys probably doesn't make it in.


Getting Sawyer back in Jan would be huge. He is possibly the best player we signed in the entire class imo.
i ws thinking a juco had to spend 3 semesters before transfering to D1 thus the reason he began in the spring. If true this allows him to complete his 3 by fall 15 but not ee. Can someone pls confirm or explain? thanks

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They are putting together a pretty good class. Fedora getting it done this cycle.

Sucks that we could never get things moving forward with McGirt.
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They are putting together a pretty good class. Fedora getting it done this cycle.

Sucks that we could never get things moving forward with McGirt.
Pretty jealous of their OL class. Three of their commits there were guys we thought we had a good shot with.
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Pretty jealous of their OL class. Three of their commits there were guys we thought we had a good shot with.
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i ws thinking a juco had to spend 3 semesters before transfering to D1 thus the reason he began in the spring. If true this allows him to complete his 3 by fall 15 but not ee. Can someone pls confirm or explain? thanks
That was on me. He'll be here after the spring semester if all goes well. He's hopefully completed one semester with two to go.
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That is a ton of Defensive Ends I would like to see 3 running backs this class. Or 2 great ones.
I'd like to see 2 RB, I just don't know who the second one will be, if any. I think we're in pretty good shape with DT plus a couple of these DE could grow into DT. But that's not the case with DE....I think that's why the coaches are going after more DE this class.
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Pretty jealous of their OL class. Three of their commits there were guys we thought we had a good shot with.
Our OL and overall class will be much better than UNC's this year. TM said Veal wasn't tough enough (so did USCBASEBALL1), Hatton would be a commit of ours now if we didn't get Milton, McGirt is the best of the 3.

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I'd like to see 2 RB, I just don't know who the second one will be, if any. I think we're in pretty good shape with DT plus a couple of these DE could grow into DT. But that's not the case with DE....I think that's why the coaches are going after more DE this class.
Need to get Scarlett on campus and see what happens there. If that can happen we may have a chance. As far as DE/DT goes, I think the three DE's we have committed now are all DE's long-term, although Whitlow may be a DE/OLB tweener type. Jones is a need at DT, that's a big time talent. Lewis is listed at 270 pounds by most services, so maybe he can grow into a DT. If not, fine. He'll add depth to the DE position if he stays there. McClain will probably grow in to a DT. Wideman may also.

I do think we need one more DE in this class, and hopefully it's Lewis.
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Need to get Scarlett on campus and see what happens there. If that can happen we may have a chance. As far as DE/DT goes, I think the three DE's we have committed now are all DE's long-term, although Whitlow may be a DE/OLB tweener type. Jones is a need at DT, that's a big time talent. Lewis is listed at 270 pounds by most services, so maybe he can grow into a DT. If not, fine. He'll add depth to the DE position if he stays there. McClain will probably grow in to a DT. Wideman may also.

I do think we need one more DE in this class, and hopefully it's Lewis.
Here's are current DT group of seven....so we're in pretty good shape here.

Surratt SR
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Plus there are a couple more that could get moved to DT.....we currently have 10 DE including the 2014 class.....although that includes both Thomas and Wideman that probably aren't going to qualify.
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Need to get Scarlett on campus and see what happens there. If that can happen we may have a chance. As far as DE/DT goes, I think the three DE's we have committed now are all DE's long-term, although Whitlow may be a DE/OLB tweener type. Jones is a need at DT, that's a big time talent. Lewis is listed at 270 pounds by most services, so maybe he can grow into a DT. If not, fine. He'll add depth to the DE position if he stays there. McClain will probably grow in to a DT. Wideman may also.

I do think we need one more DE in this class, and hopefully it's Lewis.
I've got 6 DE listed......Whitlow could be moved to LB and nobody knows for sure what will happen with Sawyer and Wideman.
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