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Old 06-18-2014, 12:30 PM   #181
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They take into account viewing parties. Do you not realize every Sunday of the football season there bars filled with people watching the games, not just sports specific bars like with soccer. Also even with Univision the numbers don't surpass the NFL regular season, let alone playoffs or Super Bowl. The NFL on a weekend does 12x better ratings. USA soccer benefits massively from being the national team and still is nowhere close in viewership. You can make excuses but the facts are that even as it's at it's highest ratings ever, it is still bottom tier.

Not making excuses but half the country was still working during the game. I also saw a stat that the game had 1.4 million viewers on the watch espn app (the most watched show/game ever on the app).


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How has this one ALSO devolved into a soccer vs <insert sport> thread...

It's like the lowest common denominators can ONLY compare rather than just enjoy each sport based on their own merit...

It's not a dick measuring contest, but people seem determined to make it one.
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:38 PM   #183
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You started he thread bud, you were asking for it.

I don't find anything wrong with it, it's a good conversation minus a few immature posters here and there .
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The NFL isn't the comparison to make anyway. The NFL had 15 or the top 17 of any viewed events last year. A world series game is where I would look for a comparison since soccer and baseball are the participation stats I always see compared
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CHANGE IN DIRECTION

I was listening to 107.5 yesterday and it was fascinating to hear some of the callers talk about their experience watching a whole soccer game for the first time.

Names like: Roy from Gilbert, Earl from Pine Ridge, Marcus from Lower Richland.

Folks that would NEVER give soccer a second look were totally absorbed.

I know there are a lot of folks on CT that had this same reaction. My hope is that some of these people will go on to pick-up an EPL or Spanish team to watch on Saturday or Sunday mornings.

I'd much rather my kids watch soccer than cartoons on Saturday mornings.
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:50 PM   #187
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Don't think I've ever met a person named Roy or Earl in real life
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:55 PM   #188
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That's cause you're a pompus ass is too busy drinking martinis with the Wall Street elite. ;)
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I started it as a serious thanks for people NOT doing what used to always happen to any soccer thread.

...but I bet you've met an Enrique or Pablo tho...
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:31 PM   #191
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CHANGE IN DIRECTION

I was listening to 107.5 yesterday and it was fascinating to hear some of the callers talk about their experience watching a whole soccer game for the first time.

Names like: Roy from Gilbert, Earl from Pine Ridge, Marcus from Lower Richland.

Folks that would NEVER give soccer a second look were totally absorbed.

I know there are a lot of folks on CT that had this same reaction. My hope is that some of these people will go on to pick-up an EPL or Spanish team to watch on Saturday or Sunday mornings.

I'd much rather my kids watch soccer than cartoons on Saturday mornings.

I hear ya- and do find it fascinating.

But as for the bolded part...as a casual observer, someone that can really get into soccer WHEN WE'RE PLAYING...sorry, I cannot just "pick up" some other team. I'm a 31 year old man. Personally- I've never been able to 'adopt' a team, except for as a child. As an adult, I can't find myself just selecting a team randomly and following them. I'd have to have some sort of affiliation or tie-in to that team. With the US team, its easy...cause, 'Merca. But some random EPL or Spanish team? Nah, not happening. Seems too forced, too fairweather, too childish (sorry if that sounds insulting, its not meant to be)
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:32 PM   #192
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funny thing is...the only Roy I've ever known in my entire life, I met while working with a client in Charlotte.

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Old 06-18-2014, 01:33 PM   #193
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I started it as a serious thanks for people NOT doing what used to always happen to any soccer thread.
It's kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy...thanking people for not doing something annoying is like putting chum in shark-infested waters
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:51 PM   #194
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Once again... What is wrong with this thread?

To be honest Bio, you could be blamed more than the actual people, you baited them into it by starting the thread.

I'm a soccer fan but I like having this debate. It's only bad when you get people that start calling eachother names because they either like or dislike the sport
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The NFL isn't the comparison to make anyway. The NFL had 15 or the top 17 of any viewed events last year. A world series game is where I would look for a comparison since soccer and baseball are the participation stats I always see compared
Choosing the national US soccer team against any pro sport is a bad comparison, since one is the entire country's team. You are basically proving my point, USA soccer can barely match city vs city games and events. If Monday was an MLS game and did those numbers, than I'd say soccer has arrived. For now, it's the same every 4 year story.

This isn't meant as a negative to soccer, I'm just tired of the illogical and redundant propaganda being pushed by ESPN and other media.
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...but I bet you've met an Enrique or Pablo tho...
Na haven't yet. Well if they actually told me their names.
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I hear ya- and do find it fascinating.

But as for the bolded part...as a casual observer, someone that can really get into soccer WHEN WE'RE PLAYING...sorry, I cannot just "pick up" some other team. I'm a 31 year old man. Personally- I've never been able to 'adopt' a team, except for as a child. As an adult, I can't find myself just selecting a team randomly and following them. I'd have to have some sort of affiliation or tie-in to that team. With the US team, its easy...cause, 'Merca. But some random EPL or Spanish team? Nah, not happening. Seems too forced, too fairweather, too childish (sorry if that sounds insulting, its not meant to be)

That's cool. Enjoy watching Dora the Explorer.
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I hear ya- and do find it fascinating.

But as for the bolded part...as a casual observer, someone that can really get into soccer WHEN WE'RE PLAYING...sorry, I cannot just "pick up" some other team. I'm a 31 year old man. Personally- I've never been able to 'adopt' a team, except for as a child. As an adult, I can't find myself just selecting a team randomly and following them. I'd have to have some sort of affiliation or tie-in to that team. With the US team, its easy...cause, 'Merca. But some random EPL or Spanish team? Nah, not happening. Seems too forced, too fairweather, too childish (sorry if that sounds insulting, its not meant to be)
I am kind of with you. I love the game. I do like that I can watch great games on Saturdays and Sundays but I don't ever see me having specific team I root for. I just enjoy watching a great game. I absolutely love the world cup. The fans passion is what makes it so entertaining
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Choosing the national US soccer team against any pro sport is a bad comparison, since one is the entire country's team. You are basically proving my point, USA soccer can barely match city vs city games and events. If Monday was an MLS game and did those numbers, than I'd say soccer has arrived. For now, it's the same every 4 year story.

This isn't meant as a negative to soccer, I'm just tired of the illogical and redundant propaganda being pushed by ESPN and other media.
I do agree with you that ESPN and other media are way overselling the status of soccer in the US.
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