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Old 06-22-2014, 04:39 PM   #21
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Old 06-22-2014, 05:02 PM   #24
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You do know they beat 5 top 15 teams that year?
They were really good, but didn't finish with wins over 5 top 15 teams.

Penn State 5-6
Rutgers 2-9
Pittsburgh 7-5
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FSU 8-4 (15th)
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Nebraska 11-2 (8th)

Not that it matters. We finished with 3 top 10 wins last year, 1 being a top 5 team on the road. We also lost to 2 unranked teams.

I think the Auburn fan's point is a good one though. No way Miami goes through that season without a sack playing SEC defenses, the strength of which always has been and always will be their Dlines. There's just no other league in the country that compares and it's the Dline where the "SEC speed" sets them apart from everyone else.

That said, we can forget about not giving up a sack. That's just totally unrealistic. Especially in this league and especially considering we gave up 23 just last year with a more mobile QB.

Last year our oline was pretty good and that was good enough for Carolina's best in a long, long time. I hope they take the next step and are great this year. It's what this program has sorely lacked through this high point in our history. But even if they do take that step, giving up no sacks in the SEC is nothing more than a fantasy.

I agree that TOs will be the most important stat. But I think we need to concentrate on takeaways from the defense. I have a feeling that's going to be our best bet in stopping teams and getting the ball back for Spurrier's offense.
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2001 Miami? Seriously?!?! They are one of the greatest college football teams of all time! Please don't compare us to them...just makes our fan base look silly.

We will give up a sacks. As good as our OL has the potential to be both of our Tackles are much better at run blocking and struggle at pass protection especially our LT Robinson, DT's blindside. We will give up plenty of sacks.
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miami didnt let up a single sack? thats pretty impressive.
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If our o line can keep Dylan upright and not hurried then I truly believe he will pick apart any defense. 2001 Miami didn't allow a single sack, maybe one, and won it all with Ken Dorsey. I think Dylan can throw just as well as Dorsey did and I think we can do the same thing or at least put ourselves in a good position to win it all. Our offense will be a well oiled machine if Dylan never sees the turf.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:17 PM   #28
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I think the OP is right, in a way. If our O-line was that good I would take us to win every game all day.

The problem is that our O-line is not that good.
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I think the OP is right, in a way. If our O-line was that good I would take us to win every game all day.

The problem is that our O-line is not that good.
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saying that our qb could go without getting sacked is laughable. the oline is good but not that good.

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Default Re: No sacks=undefeated, maybe 1 loss

I don't see where you can draw a correlation between sacks and wins/losses.

The 2012 Tennessee team was tied for third in fewest sacks allowed (8) and ended the season with a 5-7 record. A 4-8 Arkansas team had the second fewest in the SEC that season with 18.

In 2013 the ranking was reversed. 3-9 Arkansas (2nd in the nation) allowed eight. UT allowed 15 at 5-7.

2013- Florida State allowed 33—ranked 99th nationally.
2012- Alabama allowed 23— ranked 54th nationally.
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If we don't allow any points on defense this year, we'll win all of our games, maybe tie one (if we don't score any points). Just my opinion.
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:45 PM   #34
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If we managed to not give up 1 sack the entire year, our offensive line would be the greatest in the history of offensive lines. But sadly, we will give up 1, 2, 3 and probably about 20.
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30 sacks, hopefully no fumbles.
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Default Re: No sacks=undefeated, maybe 1 loss

To me, the best statistic to predict success is either rush/ypg or turnover margin. I'd rather be awesome in one of those categories.



Also, you can't always blame a sack on the OL. You also need a QB to make good, quick decisions and WRs to get open. I think our guys will be OK in these areas but we will get sacked
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You do realize that 2001 Miami team is considered by some to be the best college football team ever right? They had 6 first team All Americans on that team. They had 17 players alone from that 2001 team that were drafted in the first round at some point including Andre Johnson, Sean Taylor, Kellen Winslow, Jonathan Vilma, Jeremy Shockey, Vince Wilfork,Willis McGahee, and Ed Reed just to name a few. Not to mention Clinton Portis and Frank Gore were also selected in the later rounds. They had 38 players from that team drafted in the NFL. It had a lot more to do with those guys than it did with how good Ken Dorsey was or if he ever got sacked. No disrespect intended but South Carolina's upcoming team will not be anywhere close to that good. That was a once in a lifetime team. There are plenty of teams that dont give up bunches of sacks that fail to "win it all".
Dude, in this day and age and our o line as a strength this year anything is possible. And what football genius said we don't have the talent to not give up sacks? If Dylan can get rid of the ball and if we are that legit at o line, why couldn't we be as good as Alabama or close? I think some fans don't have a whole lot of faith in our guys. I do.
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I don't see where you can draw a correlation between sacks and wins/losses.

The 2012 Tennessee team was tied for third in fewest sacks allowed (8) and ended the season with a 5-7 record. A 4-8 Arkansas team had the second fewest in the SEC that season with 18.

In 2013 the ranking was reversed. 3-9 Arkansas (2nd in the nation) allowed eight. UT allowed 15 at 5-7.

2013- Florida State allowed 33—ranked 99th nationally.
2012- Alabama allowed 23— ranked 54th nationally.
Cause I think with this being one of our best offensive lines, Dylan will have a great year, we'll see. The Auburn game last year should show you especially anything is possible.
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Cause I think with this being one of our best offensive lines, Dylan will have a great year, we'll see. The Auburn game last year should show you especially anything is possible.
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Sacks will happen. Too many great defensive players and even more so defensive coordinators not to give up any sacks in this league. It's just not realistic.

If we stay away from too many 3rd and 10+ aka 3rd and long situations then we'll be in great position to win every game.
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