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Old 06-24-2014, 11:51 AM   #781
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Wideman is going to grow into a DT.
You think he is going to add 50lbs in 2 years? I doubt it. You need to be right at about 300lbs if you don't want to get pushed around.
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You think he is going to add 50lbs in 2 years? I doubt it. You need to be right at about 300lbs if you don't want to get pushed around.
Travian Robertson did. He was listed at 230 coming out of high school. He was 303 his Senior year. Also Devin Taylor put on a shocking amount of weight in 2 years as well. Also you don't know how his body is going to develop in a college program.
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You think he is going to add 50lbs in 2 years? I doubt it. You need to be right at about 300lbs if you don't want to get pushed around.

Quarles was 6'4" 265 when he got to campus. Officially about 10 pounds heavier than Wideman is now. But who knows, Wideman could be in the 260-265 range at the moment. Similar frame at 6'4".

Look at a guy like Melvin Ingram who came to school at 225 pounds, maxed at 280 and now plays in the 265-270 range for the Chargers. He could slide over and play a similar inside rusher role in passing situations.

I think he's got more than enough athletic ability to play DE even if he doesn't gain weight as expected. The coaches just want him on the field.

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Old 06-24-2014, 12:02 PM   #784
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You think he is going to add 50lbs in 2 years? I doubt it. You need to be right at about 300lbs if you don't want to get pushed around.
He weighs 276 as a Sr in high school, this is why most services have him listed as a DT. Could lean up to be a big DE though but I doubt it.
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Old 06-24-2014, 12:34 PM   #785
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This is pretty close. I think we are signing somewhere b/w 29-32.

If found out that the NCAA/SEC haven't closed the December 1st Financial Aid loophole that Tennessee used last year, so we don't really have a limit of Early Enrollees/JUCOs we can count back. I think we'll have somewhere b/w 4-7.

We have 81 guys on scholarship right now. (Thomas didn't qualify so Conway can remove him from the 82 count) Also, Wideman and Smalls are on the fence with making it in.

We do have 14 Sr's and a fistful of Jr's/RS Soph's who might try to leave early. So let's just say 20 spots for next season from that, but we will already have an additional 0-6 scholly's available from not being fulfilled this year (penalty, or non qualifier.) So really anywhere from 20-26 spots for next year, without attrition.

Then b/w academic non-qualifiers this past cycle,the current cycle and with normal attrition of a few guys looking for more playing time elsewhere, I could see us going all they way up to 32 signees this cycle, but reasonably within the 28-32 range. We could have a couple high school EE's, then Durant, Jones, Lewis, and Palmer all get here in January and maybe even sign that Financial Aid document before December 1, just for insurance or to free us up to sign even more officially in February.

So if we had 6 EE's under that scenario, we could still sign 25 LOI's n February.

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81 scholly's now
79 on the low end if Wideman and Smalls don't qualify.
14 graduates in '15

means 18-20 scholarships available, and then...

4-6 possible early NFL entries

means 22-26 scholarships available, and then....

academic/injury/etc... casualties from this coming cycles, estimate 2-3

means 24-29 scholarships available, and then...

3-4 guys who leave the team looking for more playing time elsewhere

means 27-33 scholarships available, and that's about it. So that's why I think we sign somewhere b/w 28-32 this cycle.
Excellent. 81 is correct. Thomas never spent a day in class at USC to the best of my knowledge.
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Take Thompson off the board. Committed to So Alabama. Good luck to the kid, I'm very OK with this because we have bigger needs imo plus we still have a great shot at Arnette

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Take Thompson off the board. Committed to So Alabama. Good luck to the kid, I'm very OK with this because we have bigger needs imo plus we still have a great shot at Arnette
Hopefully the Thompson commitment to South Alabama helps us out with Arnette. Abernathy is still on the board to, who according to VolQuest we lead for.
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:22 PM   #788
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Ending our DB recruiting with Abernathy or Arnette would be a big plus.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:09 PM   #789
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Hopefully the Thompson commitment to South Alabama helps us out with Arnette. Abernathy is still on the board to, who according to VolQuest we lead for.
I looked at Abernathy's profile on ESPN, I had to do a double take. Tell me he doesn't look like a thinner Eric Norwood!

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Hopefully the Thompson commitment to South Alabama helps us out with Arnette. Abernathy is still on the board to, who according to VolQuest we lead for.
According to 247, Abernathy is focused on Tennessee, Alabama and Georgia.

But I hope you and VolQuest are right.
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Quarles was 6'4" 265 when he got to campus. Officially about 10 pounds heavier than Wideman is now. But who knows, Wideman could be in the 260-265 range at the moment. Similar frame at 6'4".

Look at a guy like Melvin Ingram who came to school at 225 pounds, maxed at 280 and now plays in the 265-270 range for the Chargers. He could slide over and play a similar inside rusher role in passing situations.

I think he's got more than enough athletic ability to play DE even if he doesn't gain weight as expected. The coaches just want him on the field.

Edit: Wideman is 276
He's up to 276 already? Well then. Still don't know if he will ever wear the uniform though.
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I'd like to finish with:

Turner
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Scarlett not likely to ever visit Columbia. Sandifer not coming if Bailey commits. Scratch Thompson.....this may help with Arnette now. Morrell thinks we will get 1 of Merrick, Womack, or Pellage in addition to Bailey.
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Aren't we already counting Thomas, Ritchie, Sawyer, and possibly Smalls and Wideman? Sawyer will now be a part of the '15 class. We're already counting some EEs to count back for those from the '14 class that didn't get in: are you saying we need 6-7 more in attrition in addition to those EE countbacks?

The only early departures for the NFL that I see as possible are Davis and Shell, and that's it...
Those guys were part of the 2014 class because they signed an LOI, if they don't make it in, they aren't counted against our 2014 class and therefore we can use those spots to increase our 2015 class as long as we have enough EE which certainly is the case.
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With our current commit list, it seems we would switch gears and gun for some RBs. Were the coaches possibly filling the boat in order to use a solid class to attract marquee RB talent?
no they have been pushing for good RB's this class for a many months.....remember the first 2 to commit win....one of them looks to be Turner.....I hope Shaw is the other.....we can't have a good football team without a "Shaw".
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I looked at Abernathy's profile on ESPN, I had to do a double take. Tell me he doesn't look like a thinner Eric Norwood!

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I looked at Abernathy's profile on ESPN, I had to do a double take. Tell me he doesn't look like a thinner Eric Norwood!

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Maybe they are related. Was Norwood from Norcross?
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no they have been pushing for good RB's this class for a many months.....remember the first 2 to commit win....one of them looks to be Turner.....I hope Shaw is the other.....we can't have a good football team without a "Shaw".
We'd have a Connor and a Shaw if we get Shaw....

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According to 247, Abernathy is focused on Tennessee, Alabama and Georgia.

But I hope you and VolQuest are right.
I'm not a subscriber to VolQuest, but Ericvol posted that but of info in Abernathy's thread.
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Maybe they are related. Was Norwood from Norcross?
Norwood is from North Cobb Georgia I believe
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Norwood is from North Cobb Georgia I believe
Not that far away I guess.
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