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Old 06-25-2014, 03:35 PM   #21
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No, it's just someone trying to reach for some justification to still b*tch about
Hymen and what he did while he was here. He pissed off some old-timers with his new policies and some of them won't get over it.
Did you read the article?

The part that ABSOLUTELY pertains to USC as well as every other school is about the fan experience at the game. The basic question is are you letting TV revenue drive down the experience for those that ATTEND the games.

If you think concession lines and waiting on the bathroom don't affect enjoyment of the game atmosphere you must have box seats.

As far as your quote, it's interesting that someone as level headed and not prone to a one-sided argument as yourself would take that from this thread/article.
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Old 06-25-2014, 04:02 PM   #22
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Did you read the article?

The part that ABSOLUTELY pertains to USC as well as every other school is about the fan experience at the game. The basic question is are you letting TV revenue drive down the experience for those that ATTEND the games.

If you think concession lines and waiting on the bathroom don't affect enjoyment of the game atmosphere you must have box seats.

As far as your quote, it's interesting that someone as level headed and not prone to a one-sided argument as yourself would take that from this thread/article.
I still don't think any of that has anything real to do with Hyman....


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[quote=ConwayGamecock;4190551]I still don't think any of that has anything real to do with Hyman....


I don't think it pertains to Hyman here, but certainly at his new post.

Look, if we keep winning like we are currently WB will be full and rocking. I fully intend to enjoy it while it lasts. Beats the hell out of when we sucked. But if you think even "the most loyal fans in the country" will keep it packed for a 7-5 and 8-4 season these days you better up your game with services in the stadium.
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I'm just glad we have Ray. I am happy as a clam now.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:22 PM   #25
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Did you read the article?

The part that ABSOLUTELY pertains to USC as well as every other school is about the fan experience at the game. The basic question is are you letting TV revenue drive down the experience for those that ATTEND the games.

If you think concession lines and waiting on the bathroom don't affect enjoyment of the game atmosphere you must have box seats.

As far as your quote, it's interesting that someone as level headed and not prone to a one-sided argument as yourself would take that from this thread/article.
For almost 20 years I eat and piss right before I go in the stadium like a sensible person so bathroom lines and concession lines never really bothered me. And I am not taking it from this article. I am taking it from the OP's post.

Does TV make it harder to make it worth it to come to the games? Sure. But we never really had that problem here did we? So why are is someone trying to compare Michigan and their AD, to South Carolina and Hyman when our AD for over a year is Tanner. Why go bring Hyman into this when he has only improving our football program to be blamed for?

I don't know what Michigan's problem is, but it's got nothing to do with anything we have been doing at USC.

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Old 06-25-2014, 09:42 PM   #26
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Is that as happy as a Buster hyman or a Buster Clam?
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You want to know what is bad for game day experience? How about Michigan weather in October? Maybe that has something to do with it.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:09 PM   #28
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A thing is WORTH WHATEVER people will pay for it.


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I'm just glad we have Ray. I am happy as a clam now.
He would have raised the prices too my friend, he knows how to make a successful program. I love Tanner, but he's got to show his chops hiring coaches after the great ones we have now before we can be accurately judging him. He has not hired one coach in the our top sports (Football, Mens BBall, Womens BBall, Track, Equestrian, Men's Soccer, etc). He just hasn't been tested yet. I have full hope he'll do great, but he hasn't had a major change since he's been in charge.
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You basically have to pay kids now a days to get to them come and sit for an entire game. Everything is instant gratification today. A four hour game seems like an eternity.
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While all these things maybe played a small role, I think the biggest part is what people mentioned here. They are used to contending for a national title and aren't really interested when they are not.
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You basically have to pay kids now a days to get to them come and sit for an entire game. Everything is instant gratification today. A four hour game seems like an eternity.
Yeah. Im 21. And i hate this crap. I love football. I wish the games were longer. Ha
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Except that things were great under Hyman because we had a good team so...... Yeah, not a good comparison. The Hyman years are the Golden Years of Gamecock football and Ray is just following the model of what he did. Texas A&M fans aren't complaining either. What a bunch of haters. Michigan just simply has not been as good as they were in years past.
Hynam is a goddam asshole. aTm peeps think so too now. He, Prissy, and his local pilow biters can all die in a fire as far as I am concerned.
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Hynam is a goddam asshole. aTm peeps think so too now. He, Prissy, and his local pilow biters can all die in a fire as far as I am concerned.

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While all these things maybe played a small role, I think the biggest part is what people mentioned here. They are used to contending for a national title and aren't really interested when they are not.
This is the definition of a bangwagon fan!
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You want to know what is bad for game day experience? How about Michigan weather in October? Maybe that has something to do with it.
Not so in past decades weather is a badge of honor! The colder, the rainier, the muddier, etc. but I don't know how students think about weather today maybe you're in better touch with the student's attitudes.

Now playing in the heat as a fan I don't think it is so much as of an honor but as a player it something to brag about.
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Hynam is a goddam asshole. aTm peeps think so too now. He, Prissy, and his local pilow biters can all die in a fire as far as I am concerned.
....really? I guess you would prefer our facilities to be embarrassing to show to recruits as long as tickets are cheap.
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Did you read the article?

The part that ABSOLUTELY pertains to USC as well as every other school is about the fan experience at the game. The basic question is are you letting TV revenue drive down the experience for those that ATTEND the games.

If you think concession lines and waiting on the bathroom don't affect enjoyment of the game atmosphere you must have box seats.

As far as your quote, it's interesting that someone as level headed and not prone to a one-sided argument as yourself would take that from this thread/article.
I don't think TV is related to worsening concession lines and bathroom lines. If anything the extra TV timeouts mean you'll miss less of the game if you go.
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I don't think TV is related to worsening concession lines and bathroom lines. If anything the extra TV timeouts mean you'll miss less of the game if you go.
No correlation between those. The TV issue is going to rear its head for TAM and UGA games. Both of those would be 7:30 games and slightly cooler without TV.

The point I agreed with in the article is that with all the things competing for an AD's attention, fan experience can be shuffled down the list of priorities. It used to be that ticket sales were the primary source of revenue and they aren't anymore.

All that being said, the home schedule for Michigan is App State, Miami of OH, Utah, Minnesota, Penn State, Indiana, and Maryland. No real reason to go.
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Some folks hit it on the nail this is the doing of;

Bad economy
Prices too high for that economy
Fairweather fans(every team has them, UM might have more than average)

What I found funny was the overpriced concessions. I never knew a time
when they weren't overpriced.


Honestly I would like to see the situation if the team was doing great, and would this still be an issue? Kind of reminds me of USC's situation in reverse. The money helped our program, where it's not doing anything for UM. If USC was still getting 6-6 average years would you guys be praising these recently added programs in place?
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