New Trophy with Texas A&M

[A. Pilgrim]

Originally Posted by trapper82

I am fairly certain you badly misread that. It was William Travis who was identified as having the baggage, and it wasn't "freeing slaves" it was capturing runaway slaves and leaving his wife that made people shy away.

So...

Whoops!

Yeah, I read it late last night, and apparently I was WAY off

so, yeah...capturing runaway slaves, that's pretty f'ed up stuff.

Thanks for the correction!

[SECgamecock453]

Also, what the hell are we now the Big 10 where every game has a damn trophy?

[A. Pilgrim]

Originally Posted by SECgamecock453

Also, what the hell are we now the Big 10 where every game has a damn trophy?

"GET OFF MY LAWN!!!"

What the hell, are you one of these people who just likes to bitch about anything?

[SECgamecock453]

Originally Posted by A. Pilgrim

"GET OFF MY LAWN!!!"

What the hell, are you one of these people who just likes to bitch about anything?

I'm just saying how I feel.... I think it's dumb especially since Missouri and Texas A&M are forced rivalries.

[A. Pilgrim]

Originally Posted by SECgamecock453

I'm just saying how I feel.... I think it's dumb especially since Missouri and Texas A&M are forced rivalries.

I'll let you in on a little secret...

All of those other rivalries with a trophy? Someone came up with those trophies...they didn't appear magically, or grow out of the ground...

[SECgamecock453]

Originally Posted by A. Pilgrim

I'll let you in on a little secret...

All of those other rivalries with a trophy? Someone came up with those trophies...they didn't appear magically, or grow out of the ground...

No sh!t, but those teams also have always been geographically closer together and overall more similar. A lot of blue collar cities up there or at least they used to be. I mean if Missouri wasn't also in Columbia, I doubt there would be a trophy. That's called FORCED, there is absolutely no meaning behind it. At least the Big 10 trophies have history and significance. This is just grasping at straws.

[A. Pilgrim]

Originally Posted by SECgamecock453

No sh!t, but those teams also have always been geographically closer together and overall more similar. A lot of blue collar cities up there or at least they used to be. I mean if Missouri wasn't also in Columbia, I doubt there would be a trophy. That's called FORCED, there is absolutely no meaning behind it. At least the Big 10 trophies have history and significance. This is just grasping at straws.

There are a lot of rivalries across the country that are accepted as 'natural' that are not geographically adjacent to one another.

Some people just want something you complain about.
You appear to be one of those people.

[MWard]

Originally Posted by SECgamecock453

No sh!t, but those teams also have always been geographically closer together and overall more similar. A lot of blue collar cities up there or at least they used to be. I mean if Missouri wasn't also in Columbia, I doubt there would be a trophy. That's called FORCED, there is absolutely no meaning behind it. At least the Big 10 trophies have history and significance. This is just grasping at straws.

I agree with this. The Mayor's Cup came from both schools being in the cities of Columbia AND the SEC is trying to find ways of creating acceptance an intrigue for the new members.

[Rooster'srule]

Originally Posted by SECgamecock453

I'm just saying how I feel.... I think it's dumb especially since Missouri and Texas A&M are forced rivalries.

Not sure "forced" is the correct adjective...maybe arbitrary...but these guys are good football teams with good histories, etc. I don't think we are leaving the SEC nor do I think they will...so playing them for the forseeable future and beyond is a real possibility so in the long run I am sure these match ups will be great rivalries and exciting, tough games. I see your point tho the SEC did kind of choose these game for us and there is no real history right now. When we played Missu in the bowl game I remember thinking I am glad we get a chance to play these guys and wanted to play a lot of other teams that we didn't normally play. It was great when we played USCw and Mich., etc. back in the 80s

[CockyFanForLife]

When I was in Carolina, I dated a boy named Brian Bonham and later shared an apartment with a girl named Margaret Bonham. Both were related to James Butler Bonham. Margaret's dad posed for a statue of Bonham in Texas. It would be interesting to see how many of the family went to USC and somehow tie that into the trophy presentation/hype.

[uscsandstorm85]

I like how our series with Mizzou and A&M are taking off.

[trapper82]

Let's face it, Texas A&M has traditions coming out of the wazoo. Their tradition seems to be making up traditions as they go. Which is cool and all I guess. It doesn't surprise me at all that they want to start something like this, and good for it I say. The rest of the SEC doesn't really like us, we are some of the newer kids and maybe we can all just go tell the rest to pound sand.

[ReadR00ster]

These trophies are dumb. We don't need to be trying to start traditions because this conference is still in a process of major change. We might not bet playing A&M every year for long.

[Nureye]

Originally Posted by ReadR00ster

These trophies are dumb. We don't need to be trying to start traditions because this conference is still in a process of major change. We might not bet playing A&M every year for long.

Not sure what it hurts.

Back in 1996 LSU and Arky "forced" a trophy. Now it is part of the tradition.

I like it.

[conwaycock2]

Originally Posted by Nureye

Not sure what it hurts.

Back in 1996 LSU and Arky "forced" a trophy. Now it is part of the tradition.

I like it.

Border states, but I agree nothing here to get excited about one way or the other. The trophy will be an after thought.

[wildwes]

Originally Posted by Rooster'srule

I forget who started the idea of the Palmetto Tree and Moon for a replacement of the Hardees Trophy...I thought he said he was going to make a sticky thread for it....he put it on facebook etc. Time to bring it back up and promote it again

There is already a sticky in Cockpit about Palmetto Tree and Crescent iidea.

http://www.cockytalk.com/showthread.php?t=193123

[Rooster'srule]

Originally Posted by wildwes

There is already a sticky in Cockpit about Palmetto Tree and Crescent iidea.

http://www.cockytalk.com/showthread.php?t=193123

Thanks I thought he said he was going to do that. I can look right at sumpthen and not see it.

[davidmc467]

Some of you are no fun.

[ReadR00ster]

Originally Posted by conwaycock2

Border states, but I agree nothing here to get excited about one way or the other. The trophy will be an after thought.

I'm not excited. I just thinking it's stupid to get a trophy just for winning one reular season game. It's a tradition? Okay, it's a stupid tradition.

[spareparts]

Originally Posted by Acockolypse Now

No, it's his son Jason

That's the guy from Shudder To Think???