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Old 07-03-2014, 03:21 PM   #21
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That could make them ripe for poaching by the Big 10 in the future if that happens.
...I kind of thought the same thing.....But I still think they will try the notre dame thing before that....
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:25 PM   #24
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...I kind of thought the same thing.....But I still think they will try the notre dame thing before that....
There was a thread on a Razorback board the other day talking about bringing back the South West Conference (SWC).

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There was a thread on a Razorback board the other day talking about bringing back the South West Conference (SWC).

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Well LSU, New Mexico, or Arizona never belonged in the old SWC.
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Well LSU, New Mexico, or Arizona never belonged in the old SWC.
You forgot Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

The point was, bringing back the SWC, not the original schools in the old SWC.
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Old 07-07-2014, 10:27 AM   #28
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It really depends how the SEC will determine expansion from this point on. If a few schools object, do they push on through? What about one school?

For instance, another Florida team could easily be done in UCF or USF in terms of potential for growth (those are BIG schools) but do they actually add value to the league from a footprint standpoint. But Florida would not like that, nor would perhaps UGA or us since we recruit those areas. Would we want a NC team in the picture? When does that actually start to matter?
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If I were to have my choice of two schools to add that made sense geographically and "tv footprint"-wise, I'd take OKst and NCst. They could ask aTm how they feel now about leaving their percieved "big" brother for the SEC. I think VaTech is still too tightly tied to UVa; if I remember right, there were some politicians in Virginny that lobbied hard to have the turkeybirds accepted into the acc so that they could form a true rivalry with the wahoos, that being said those two schools may have to be a package deal.

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Louisville will never be in the Big 10+4, unless they become a AAU school, which will never happen. I guess one should never say never anymore, but that will be the big reason why Louisville would never be a Big 10+4 school.
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Ah, yes, no one is good in NC.
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NC schools will provide a lot more money over WVU
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SEC would make more money with WV than with NC State, Duke, ECU, or Wake. UNC will NEVER join the SEC so you can stop that pipe dream right now. WVU is acutally a decent team with a large fanbase that actually cares about football. Not to mention it encroaches on Big 10 country. They compete with Ohio State and Penn State for recruits. screw NC, it's a basketball state, football is where the money is.
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Any of the triangle schools adds a tv market with Raleigh-Durham (which is what the big wigs care about remember its all about $$$)... I personally would add NC state because they at least care about football/have a decent following/pretty good tailgating/and fans that would fit in well ... sorry if I don't care about old acc/nc school bs that a lot of fans have never let go.... I would also add Va Tech because it is a football school and new tv markets
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SEC would make more money with WV than with NC State, Duke, ECU, or Wake. UNC will NEVER join the SEC so you can stop that pipe dream right now. WVU is acutally a decent team with a large fanbase that actually cares about football. Not to mention it encroaches on Big 10 country. They compete with Ohio State and Penn State for recruits. screw NC, it's a basketball state, football is where the money is.
Have you ever been to WV? They would not even come close ot the money an NC school would bring, period.
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SEC would make more money with WV than with NC State, Duke, ECU, or Wake. UNC will NEVER join the SEC so you can stop that pipe dream right now. WVU is acutally a decent team with a large fanbase that actually cares about football. Not to mention it encroaches on Big 10 country. They compete with Ohio State and Penn State for recruits. screw NC, it's a basketball state, football is where the money is.

Way off base IMO... I think WV has a population of just under 2 million while NC has about 9 million... UNC or NC State would deliver those homes to the SEC network and add millions to the bottom line.
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SEC would make more money with WV than with NC State, Duke, ECU, or Wake. UNC will NEVER join the SEC so you can stop that pipe dream right now. WVU is acutally a decent team with a large fanbase that actually cares about football. Not to mention it encroaches on Big 10 country. They compete with Ohio State and Penn State for recruits. screw NC, it's a basketball state, football is where the money is.
Raleigh-Durham (2nd largest in NC behind Charlotte) is the nation's 24th top television market.

Charleston-Huntington (largest in WV) ranks 65th.

And that is where the money lies. It doesn't matter at all who comes to games or how good the team is. What matters is the market that the network could sell to.
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NC-State in NC for sure.

Living up here I get a sense that NC State is always getting looked down on by the UNC / Duke whine and cheese crowd. Similar to what I imagine TA&M must have felt like in the Big 12.

NC State is a large school with a huge fan / alumni base. But they are never really in the spotlight compared to Duke / UNC. Joining the SEC would boost them up for sure and stick it to the UNC / Duke.

ECU is in a similar boat but currently play in a lower tier conference.

Then one of the Va school - Prolly VaTech would be the best fit.
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