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Old 07-07-2014, 03:39 PM   #41
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I like the idea of NC St and Okie St. They are not seen as the big boy of the state, much like A&M. Just a way to stick it to the other schools and boost those schools. I think A&M is taking over Texas slowly and thos two could as well.
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You would think NC State would want to come aboard, but every NC State fan I've ever talked to about this (total of 5) look at me strangely and can't understand why they would want to. I bring up everything we've talked about here, they scratch their heads and think for a minute, eventually admitting I am right. Then they follow with, "but that will still never happen."

I don't know why, but they are very loyal to the ACC as a fanbase in my limited experience with them.
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If I were to have my choice of two schools to add that made sense geographically and "tv footprint"-wise, I'd take OKst and NCst. They could ask aTm how they feel now about leaving their percieved "big" brother for the SEC. I think VaTech is still too tightly tied to UVa; if I remember right, there were some politicians in Virginny that lobbied hard to have the turkeybirds accepted into the acc so that they could form a true rivalry with the wahoos, that being said those two schools may have to be a package deal.
Playing off my suggestion the conference could go to 4 divisions:

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Old 07-07-2014, 04:04 PM   #44
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You would think NC State would want to come aboard, but every NC State fan I've ever talked to about this (total of 5) look at me strangely and can't understand why they would want to. I bring up everything we've talked about here, they scratch their heads and think for a minute, eventually admitting I am right. Then they follow with, "but that will still never happen."

I don't know why, but they are very loyal to the ACC as a fanbase in my limited experience with them.
I have always (jokingly??) said to 'Pack fans that they have been told what to do for so long by unc that they cannot think outside the box anymore on their own!
Anyway, out of the NC schools at this point in time, State would be my choice. I think unc/dook will not move, Wake/ECU isn't nearly the lucrative option that State is, and UNCharlotte isn't quite big enough yet (besides, would they garner the entire NC tv market like State would?).
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I have always (jokingly??) said to 'Pack fans that they have been told what to do for so long by unc that they cannot think outside the box anymore on their own!
Anyway, out of the NC schools at this point in time, State would be my choice. I think unc/dook will not move, Wake/ECU isn't nearly the lucrative option that State is, and UNCharlotte isn't quite big enough yet (besides, would they garner the entire NC tv market like State would?).
Does UNC Charlotte even have a football team? Maybe they do. But I haven't heard about it.
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Does UNC Charlotte even have a football team? Maybe they do. But I haven't heard about it.
Yep, they do; however, as I stated they are not big enough.

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You would think NC State would want to come aboard, but every NC State fan I've ever talked to about this (total of 5) look at me strangely and can't understand why they would want to. I bring up everything we've talked about here, they scratch their heads and think for a minute, eventually admitting I am right. Then they follow with, "but that will still never happen."

I don't know why, but they are very loyal to the ACC as a fanbase in my limited experience with them.
I think there is a few issues ... state really likes their old acc rivalries and traditions...i also think that state fans know they would be bottom dwellers for awhile and might struggle for a long time in the sec...also i think while state is not a "basketball" school bball is big up there and they would much rather be in the acc in bball .... ive been around a lot of state fans and i would say they are about 50-50 about wanting to switch back when it was more of a possibility ...they are very much like a&m in the fact that their rival seems to run the conference and the state and pack fans love to hate UNC but without UNC i think nc state fans would be lost
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Slive would murder for Unc and Uva. I think all of the public colleges are governed by a board in North Carolina and neither can leave without them approving it. Unc has more people on the board than nc state.. Go figure.
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With being said about NC State not wanting to leave the ACC, ECU would be the next best option for a NC school. They would be a bit more of a 'project' to get them up to SEC level. But it is a school with a huge fanbase that loves their football and tailgating.
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If you ever go on a V Tech board, they are happy with the ACC and don't want to leave.

UNC won't ever let NCSU leave.

WVU would add about 5 tv sets to the SEC network footprint, that would be a disaster.

Adding another Florida school adds zero tv sets for the SECN while dividing up the pie by another slice. That won't work.

The grant in rights has stabilized the ACC and they have a bitch-in-waiting in UCONN to offset another loss. I would expect the grant in rights to be renewed well before the expiration date, assuming that courts don't strike it down.
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With being said about NC State not wanting to leave the ACC, ECU would be the next best option for a NC school. They would be a bit more of a 'project' to get them up to SEC level. But it is a school with a huge fanbase that loves their football and tailgating.
We're not taking schools that are "projects" or ACC rejects. We'll take an ACC team or Big 12 or Big 10 team though. If it is not from one of those conferences you can forget it.
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If you ever go on a V Tech board, they are happy with the ACC and don't want to leave.

UNC won't ever let NCSU leave.

WVU would add about 5 tv sets to the SEC network footprint, that would be a disaster.

Adding another Florida school adds zero tv sets for the SECN while dividing up the pie by another slice. That won't work.

The grant in rights has stabilized the ACC and they have a bitch-in-waiting in UCONN to offset another loss. I would expect the grant in rights to be renewed well before the expiration date, assuming that courts don't strike it down.
1. Some VT fans say they are happy in the ACC and you think that represents all their fans and their athletic department? That's ridiculous.

2. WV would add more viewers to the SEC network than any NC school would. They have more football fans. So BS on what you said there. Also, it would increase the competition level which also helps ratings. Much sexier competition than a game against ECU or Not Carolina that no one is really going to see as a "much watch game."
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You would think NC State would want to come aboard, but every NC State fan I've ever talked to about this (total of 5) look at me strangely and can't understand why they would want to. I bring up everything we've talked about here, they scratch their heads and think for a minute, eventually admitting I am right. Then they follow with, "but that will still never happen."

I don't know why, but they are very loyal to the ACC as a fanbase in my limited experience with them.
NC State is another basketball school. They don't get that football is king, or they don't care.
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Way off base IMO... I think WV has a population of just under 2 million while NC has about 9 million... UNC or NC State would deliver those homes to the SEC network and add millions to the bottom line.
I don't care what NC's population is. They don't watch football! If you take NC State, you aren't getting UNC fans, Duke fans, Wake fans, East Carolina fans, App State fans...You are just getting a fraction while WVU dominates their state. WVU fans are everywhere there a good bit here in Myrtle beach. There are some WVU bars in surfside. I go to some times.
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I like the idea of NC St and Okie St. They are not seen as the big boy of the state, much like A&M. Just a way to stick it to the other schools and boost those schools. I think A&M is taking over Texas slowly and thos two could as well.
A&M will not take over Texas.
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I think they will pick the Big 10. However, the SEC would take them in a heartbeat. Duke or UVA as well.
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There is no way we get an NC school, ever. They are in collusion. The SEC wants that market, but they will never get it. They'll have to look elsewhere for expansion.
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I'd prefer UVA & NC St but I don't think it would ever happen .. Great field fodder for us , LOL
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what the hell are you all discussing....are these fantasy goupings.....
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