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Old 07-07-2014, 09:37 PM   #61
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We're not taking schools that are "projects" or ACC rejects. We'll take an ACC team or Big 12 or Big 10 team though. If it is not from one of those conferences you can forget it.
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There is no way we get an NC school, ever. They are in collusion. The SEC wants that market, but they will never get it. They'll have to look elsewhere for expansion.
Which is exactly why I brought up ECU. They are a NC school/ But very much left out of this collusion.

But it's all just for discussion anyway during the dead period until the season starts. none of this will happen in the next several years. I may be wrong.
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I would like UVA.

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Old 07-07-2014, 09:51 PM   #63
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UVA and if UNC is cut throat enough to leave , clempson would be left at the dock waving bon voyage
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Bottom line....football pays the bills but....the North Carolina group runs the acc. If UNC and Duke bolt, the acc will be sunk. clemsux fan base may support them but that and FSU alone will not be able to support the acc. It will crumble into oblivion and the rest will scramble including clemsux. They will be stand alone schools in states with SEC teams.....the death star, so to speak...lol.
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Let's not expand.

If we have to lets grab VT and Ok State.

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Which is exactly why I brought up ECU. They are a NC school/ But very much left out of this collusion.

But it's all just for discussion anyway during the dead period until the season starts. none of this will happen in the next several years. I may be wrong.
Yes, it would be a good fit, IF they went to some other major conference first and did well.
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If East Carolina joined the SEC , what effect would it have on the other NC schools ?
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Let's not expand.

If we have to lets grab VT and Ok State.

NC schools should wither and die.
If you say its all about $$$$ than you have to expand. We have two many teams for 2 divisions right now. Some teams are not going to get to play each other for a long time. This issue needs to be fixed. One way is to go to 16 teams and 4 divisions.
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If East Carolina joined the SEC , what effect would it have on the other NC schools ?
They' be upset that the SEC network was coming to their territory.
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Any NC teams that could join the SEC would become dominate over the others pretty quick IMO
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I don't care what NC's population is. They don't watch football! If you take NC State, you aren't getting UNC fans, Duke fans, Wake fans, East Carolina fans, App State fans...You are just getting a fraction while WVU dominates their state. WVU fans are everywhere there a good bit here in Myrtle beach. There are some WVU bars in surfside. I go to some times.
It's not just about fans but state footprint and population. The sec network will get over $1 for from every carrier in the sec footprint. West Virginia just does not have enough people and their academics make us look Ivy League. The sec wants schools in nc and va. They might would take West Virginia as a backup if their backs were against the wall and they had to expand to keep up with the big10 but they are a last resort cobbled in with a vatech or nc state.
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Here is the problem with trying to get an ACC team to leave. We aren't going to get an ACC team whether SEC wants that market or not.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ights/2113527/

Summary: Because Maryland, left all the presidents got together and agree that all ACC schools would have to forfeit ALL the media rights revenue to the ACC if they left the league up until the 2026-2027 season. Which basically means, they are committed until then. That is on top of the $50 million exit fee they have to pay.

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East Carolina??? Well the SEC can just add Tulsa along with them to get to 16 and claim the Oklahoma market. There is not a scenario where the likes of ecu are considered for the SEC... Please notice the sarcasm font.
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Here is the problem with trying to get an ACC team to leave. We aren't going to get an ACC team whether SEC wants that market or not.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ights/2113527/
Didn't stop Maryland.


Other teams are just waiting to see what the court rulings will be and how much the terps have to pay. The big 10 has talked to UNC/UVA/Gatech and maybe more. The acc is the league that is at risk. Their grant of rights deal will not stop someone from bolting.
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Not saying I want ECU just saying the SEC would elevate their program over the other mediocre teams in NC ..
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no, because they will be cellar dwellers. Did we start dominating Clemson when we first joined the SEC?
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Didn't stop Maryland.


Other teams are just waiting to see what the court rulings will be and how much the terps have to pay. The big 10 has talked to UNC/UVA/Gatech and maybe more. The acc is the league that is at risk. Their grant of rights deal will not stop someone from bolting.
Because they didn't agree to it. This deal was made in response to Maryland leaving and the lawsuit. If they agreed to this, they would not have left. The would have to give all their TV money to the ACC for 13 years and Maryland wouldn't get anything. The current ACC teams have basically signed in blood.
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Basketball vs football = not close.....football pays the way in college athletics. The basketball TV money they may or may not own is mediocre at best....
It would be if the NCAA did not keep the majority of the NCAA Tourney money which basically funds the whole NCAA. The TV contract is currently at $771 million a year.
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no, because they will be cellar dwellers. Did we start dominating Clemson when we first joined the SEC?
When we first joined the SEC, we weren't seeing the mountains of cash that we're seeing now, which is what any team joining the SEC would be getting.

So, you cant compare what happened when a team joined the SEC in 1992, and what has happened / will happen when a team joins in 2012 or later.
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