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Old 07-09-2014, 02:47 PM   #741
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Well, he's a 2016 guy, so he's possibly 15 or 16 years old. Haven't seen any pictures of him to see his body shape, but it's not impossible for him to grow a few more inches in the next two years.
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If he can grow 2-4 inches, he will be the height of a typical tackle.
But right now, he is a guard to me, possibly a center.
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And we're recruiting him as an ATH?


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I would assume us recruiting him as an ATH just means the coaches aren't sure where he will fit in best. With him working on his passing I'm sure they aren't just writing him off as a QB.
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He can absolutely play QB in college. I hope this doesn't end up being a Drew Barker-esque situation where we put our eggs all in one basket.
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He can absolutely play QB in college. I hope this doesn't end up being a Drew Barker-esque situation where we put our eggs all in one basket.
Nah we're going hardest after McIlwain from what I can tell.
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Nah we're going hardest after McIlwain from what I can tell.
I may be wrong but I think that might be what he's talking about.

Hoping that we don't put all our eggs in the McIlwain basket only to lose out on him and McCall.

He can feel free to correct me if I am indeed wrong...but that's the way I read it.
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Default Re: 2016 - Avery McCall

He has the same measurables as Lorenzo Nunez, and is in fact ranked higher in his class than Nunez is in his. I just don't understand the go after 1 QB recruiting philosophy of Mangus. 2013 we strike out on Hack and land Mitch, so it worked fine then. But 2014 we miss on Barker and, no offense to the young man, settle for Scar. It's fine to go for McIlwain but to put all out eggs in on him and possibly miss the boat on McCall would be a mistake, IMO.


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I've heard that it was his height that was causing us not to offer as a QB. Has he grown any over the last year or so....at most I think he's 6'0"

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He has the same measurables as Lorenzo Nunez, and is in fact ranked higher in his class than Nunez is in his. I just don't understand the go after 1 QB recruiting philosophy of Mangus. 2013 we strike out on Hack and land Mitch, so it worked fine then. But 2014 we miss on Barker and, no offense to the young man, settle for Scar. It's fine to go for McIlwain but to put all out eggs in on him and possibly miss the boat on McCall would be a mistake, IMO.


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It's still early. I think there will be a number of QB at the showcase, perhaps including McCall. It will give Magnus a chance to see them up close.The QB is the only position that there's only 1, except center, and there is some crossover between center and guard....so it's hard to go after more than 1 top level QB.
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I may be wrong but I think that might be what he's talking about.

Hoping that we don't put all our eggs in the McIlwain basket only to lose out on him and McCall.

He can feel free to correct me if I am indeed wrong...but that's the way I read it.
^this is what I meant, you are correct.
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I've heard that it was his height that was causing us not to offer as a QB. Has he grown any over the last year or so....at most I think he's 6'0"
I've seen him listed at 6'2 somewhere and I know he is listed as 6'1 on 247. His Hudl has him at 5'11. So who know's for sure. Shaw was only 6 foot as well and as we all know he was a dang good QB.
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Manziel is 5'11.
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I've seen him listed at 6'2 somewhere and I know he is listed as 6'1 on 247. His Hudl has him at 5'11. So who know's for sure. Shaw was only 6 foot as well and as we all know he was a dang good QB.
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6'2? Shaw was how tall? I'm pretty sure his offer is legit...
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Austin Kendall would be the next on the board if we lost out on McIlwain.

McCall's offer is as an ATH.
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Yeah, that was the same exact thing we told an instate QB a few years ago.

And what did this "too short" QB accomplish at GT?

First Team Consensus All American
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Not saying McCall will be the next Joe Hamilton, but offering him as an ATH is a slap in his face. It's about the same as the coaching staff telling McCall he isn't good enough to be recruited as a QB for USC, but we would like to still offer you, even though you have never played another position except QB, because we don't want people in Dillon to be mad at us since it's been such a good pipeline for USC players.
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Austin Kendall would be the next on the board if we lost out on McIlwain.

McCall's offer is as an ATH.
How do we know whether we've offered him only as an ATH? I don't doubt that you have read it somewhere, but is that just speculation, rumor and hearsay from some so-called "expert?" Has he or his high school coach said that?

I seem to remember that we offered him after he led his team to the state championship as a freshman. I would bet that we have offered him without specifying ANY position. We want him. PERIOD. If he can beat out somebody else at QB that's fine. If he doesn't, he can switch to another position if he wants. You can call that "athlete" if you want, I call it an "open offer."

This is just speculation on my part, but I would bet that no coach at Carolina has told him or will tell him: "We want you as an athlete, not a quarterback. If you want to play qb, go somewhere else." If he commits, I think he'll get his shot at qb the first year - if he wants.

You could prove me wrong with a quote from somebody with FIRSTHAND knowledge such as Avery, his coach, or one of his parents.
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How do we know whether we've offered him only as an ATH? I don't doubt that you have read it somewhere, but is that just speculation, rumor and hearsay from some so-called "expert?" Has he or his high school coach said that?

I seem to remember that we offered him after he led his team to the state championship as a freshman. I would bet that we have offered him without specifying ANY position. We want him. PERIOD. If he can beat out somebody else at QB that's fine. If he doesn't, he can switch to another position if he wants. You can call that "athlete" if you want, I call it an "open offer."

This is just speculation on my part, but I would bet that no coach at Carolina has told him or will tell him: "We want you as an athlete, not a quarterback. If you want to play qb, go somewhere else." If he commits, I think he'll get his shot at qb the first year - if he wants.

You could prove me wrong with a quote from somebody with FIRSTHAND knowledge such as Avery, his coach, or one of his parents.
The offer to McCall didn't come from Mangus. Brandon McIlwain is our only offered QB for 2016 at the moment.

Similar situation with Kevin Johnson this year.
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