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Old 07-10-2014, 10:54 AM   #41
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Austin Kendall would be the next on the board if we lost out on McIlwain.

McCall's offer is as an ATH.
How do we know whether we've offered him only as an ATH? I don't doubt that you have read it somewhere, but is that just speculation, rumor and hearsay from some so-called "expert?" Has he or his high school coach said that?

I seem to remember that we offered him after he led his team to the state championship as a freshman. I would bet that we have offered him without specifying ANY position. We want him. PERIOD. If he can beat out somebody else at QB that's fine. If he doesn't, he can switch to another position if he wants. You can call that "athlete" if you want, I call it an "open offer."

This is just speculation on my part, but I would bet that no coach at Carolina has told him or will tell him: "We want you as an athlete, not a quarterback. If you want to play qb, go somewhere else." If he commits, I think he'll get his shot at qb the first year - if he wants.

You could prove me wrong with a quote from somebody with FIRSTHAND knowledge such as Avery, his coach, or one of his parents.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:30 AM   #42
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How do we know whether we've offered him only as an ATH? I don't doubt that you have read it somewhere, but is that just speculation, rumor and hearsay from some so-called "expert?" Has he or his high school coach said that?

I seem to remember that we offered him after he led his team to the state championship as a freshman. I would bet that we have offered him without specifying ANY position. We want him. PERIOD. If he can beat out somebody else at QB that's fine. If he doesn't, he can switch to another position if he wants. You can call that "athlete" if you want, I call it an "open offer."

This is just speculation on my part, but I would bet that no coach at Carolina has told him or will tell him: "We want you as an athlete, not a quarterback. If you want to play qb, go somewhere else." If he commits, I think he'll get his shot at qb the first year - if he wants.

You could prove me wrong with a quote from somebody with FIRSTHAND knowledge such as Avery, his coach, or one of his parents.
The offer to McCall didn't come from Mangus. Brandon McIlwain is our only offered QB for 2016 at the moment.

Similar situation with Kevin Johnson this year.
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The offer to McCall didn't come from Mangus. Brandon McIlwain is our only offered QB for 2016 at the moment.

Similar situation with Kevin Johnson this year.

Wasn't Mangus on suspension from contacting recruits under our self-imposed sanctions back when we first offered McCall in December 2012?

Plus, who says it wasn't Mangus?

Plus, so what if it wasn't Mangus? He didn't make the offer to Scarnecchia - SOS did it.
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How do we know whether we've offered him only as an ATH? I don't doubt that you have read it somewhere, but is that just speculation, rumor and hearsay from some so-called "expert?" Has he or his high school coach said that?
There are people on this board who are truly connected and truly know what they're talking about, and people who only regurgitate what rumors they hear secondhand.

I don't know Jayceecock, but the tidbits of info he throws out compare to the old EF Hutton commercial....when he says something, listen.

If he says we offered as an ATH, then as far as I'm concerned that's what we offered as.
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I didn't say we offered McCall as an ATH.

I do know Coach Elliott delivered the offer to McCall when he was at Dillon to check on the two OL guys we were recruiting.

I don't know who gave Coach Elliott the go ahead to offer. I would guess SOS, or Steve Jr.

247 has McCall listed as an ATH. I don't think 247 did this without checking with their sources.

Rivals has him listed as a Dual Threat QB.

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I didn't say we offered McCall as an ATH.

I do know Coach Elliott delivered the offer to McCall when he was at Dillon to check on the two OL guys we were recruiting.

I don't know who gave Coach Elliott the go ahead to offer. I would guess SOS, or Steve Jr.

247 has McCall listed as an ATH. I don't think 247 did this without checking with someone on the staff that would know.

Rivals has him listed as a Dual Threat QB.

Repeat: The Staff CANNOT talk to 247 about prospects.
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I changed it to sources.

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Manziel is 5'11.
5'11 3/4 per the NFL combine....but he's still an asshole....

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5'11 3/4 per the NFL combine....but he's still an asshole....

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All I'm saying is, you can be a 6' tall QB and play in this league. Manziel was just an example.
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All I'm saying is, you can be a 6' tall QB and play in this league. Manziel was just an example.
you are exactly right.....Russell Wilson is less than 6'
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