2016 Graveyard Thread

[MWard]

Originally Posted by StormOfTalons

I may be wrong but I think that might be what he's talking about.

Hoping that we don't put all our eggs in the McIlwain basket only to lose out on him and McCall.

He can feel free to correct me if I am indeed wrong...but that's the way I read it.

^this is what I meant, you are correct.

[GarnetSwarm1990]

Originally Posted by b381l

I've heard that it was his height that was causing us not to offer as a QB. Has he grown any over the last year or so....at most I think he's 6'0"

I've seen him listed at 6'2 somewhere and I know he is listed as 6'1 on 247. His Hudl has him at 5'11. So who know's for sure. Shaw was only 6 foot as well and as we all know he was a dang good QB.

[Gamecocks321]

Manziel is 5'11.

[uscGRAD04]

Originally Posted by GarnetSwarm1990

I've seen him listed at 6'2 somewhere and I know he is listed as 6'1 on 247. His Hudl has him at 5'11. So who know's for sure. Shaw was only 6 foot as well and as we all know he was a dang good QB.

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

Link: http://sportstalksc.com/index.php/20...lcolm-garrett/

In this thread.

[InletCock1989]

6'2? Shaw was how tall? I'm pretty sure his offer is legit...

[CoverTwo]

Austin Kendall would be the next on the board if we lost out on McIlwain.

McCall's offer is as an ATH.

[jayceecock]

Originally Posted by b381l

I've heard that it was his height that was causing us not to offer as a QB. Has he grown any over the last year or so....at most I think he's 6'0"

Yeah, that was the same exact thing we told an instate QB a few years ago.

And what did this "too short" QB accomplish at GT?

First Team Consensus All American
Winner of the Davey O'Brien National QB Award
Runner Up Heisman Trophy Award
First QB in NCAA D1 history to top 10,000 yards with 1,500 yards rushing.

Not saying McCall will be the next Joe Hamilton, but offering him as an ATH is a slap in his face. It's about the same as the coaching staff telling McCall he isn't good enough to be recruited as a QB for USC, but we would like to still offer you, even though you have never played another position except QB, because we don't want people in Dillon to be mad at us since it's been such a good pipeline for USC players.

[sgacock]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

Austin Kendall would be the next on the board if we lost out on McIlwain.

McCall's offer is as an ATH.

How do we know whether we've offered him only as an ATH? I don't doubt that you have read it somewhere, but is that just speculation, rumor and hearsay from some so-called "expert?" Has he or his high school coach said that?

I seem to remember that we offered him after he led his team to the state championship as a freshman. I would bet that we have offered him without specifying ANY position. We want him. PERIOD. If he can beat out somebody else at QB that's fine. If he doesn't, he can switch to another position if he wants. You can call that "athlete" if you want, I call it an "open offer."

This is just speculation on my part, but I would bet that no coach at Carolina has told him or will tell him: "We want you as an athlete, not a quarterback. If you want to play qb, go somewhere else." If he commits, I think he'll get his shot at qb the first year - if he wants.

You could prove me wrong with a quote from somebody with FIRSTHAND knowledge such as Avery, his coach, or one of his parents.

[bigduff32]

Originally Posted by Gamecocks321

Manziel is 5'11.

He's also a major DOUCHE





sorry.... had to throw that in there

[CoverTwo]

Originally Posted by sgacock

How do we know whether we've offered him only as an ATH? I don't doubt that you have read it somewhere, but is that just speculation, rumor and hearsay from some so-called "expert?" Has he or his high school coach said that?

I seem to remember that we offered him after he led his team to the state championship as a freshman. I would bet that we have offered him without specifying ANY position. We want him. PERIOD. If he can beat out somebody else at QB that's fine. If he doesn't, he can switch to another position if he wants. You can call that "athlete" if you want, I call it an "open offer."

This is just speculation on my part, but I would bet that no coach at Carolina has told him or will tell him: "We want you as an athlete, not a quarterback. If you want to play qb, go somewhere else." If he commits, I think he'll get his shot at qb the first year - if he wants.

You could prove me wrong with a quote from somebody with FIRSTHAND knowledge such as Avery, his coach, or one of his parents.

The offer to McCall didn't come from Mangus. Brandon McIlwain is our only offered QB for 2016 at the moment.

Similar situation with Kevin Johnson this year.

[b381l]

There is a poster on GCC that is very familiar with Feaster's recruitment......he is coached by Chris Miller at Spartanburg who also coached Lattimore while at Byrnes. Miller is a big Gamecock fan and will take him to as many Gamecock games as possible and compares him to Marcus.....also said he is absolutely not a lock to Clemson.

So maybe this is not a done deal like many of us thought.

[sgacock]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

The offer to McCall didn't come from Mangus. Brandon McIlwain is our only offered QB for 2016 at the moment.

Similar situation with Kevin Johnson this year.

Wasn't Mangus on suspension from contacting recruits under our self-imposed sanctions back when we first offered McCall in December 2012?

Plus, who says it wasn't Mangus?

Plus, so what if it wasn't Mangus? He didn't make the offer to Scarnecchia - SOS did it.

[pitchcock]

Originally Posted by sgacock

How do we know whether we've offered him only as an ATH? I don't doubt that you have read it somewhere, but is that just speculation, rumor and hearsay from some so-called "expert?" Has he or his high school coach said that?

There are people on this board who are truly connected and truly know what they're talking about, and people who only regurgitate what rumors they hear secondhand.

I don't know Jayceecock, but the tidbits of info he throws out compare to the old EF Hutton commercial....when he says something, listen.

If he says we offered as an ATH, then as far as I'm concerned that's what we offered as.

[jayceecock]

I didn't say we offered McCall as an ATH.

I do know Coach Elliott delivered the offer to McCall when he was at Dillon to check on the two OL guys we were recruiting.

I don't know who gave Coach Elliott the go ahead to offer. I would guess SOS, or Steve Jr.

247 has McCall listed as an ATH. I don't think 247 did this without checking with their sources.

Rivals has him listed as a Dual Threat QB.

[sgacock]

Originally Posted by jayceecock

I didn't say we offered McCall as an ATH.

I do know Coach Elliott delivered the offer to McCall when he was at Dillon to check on the two OL guys we were recruiting.

I don't know who gave Coach Elliott the go ahead to offer. I would guess SOS, or Steve Jr.

247 has McCall listed as an ATH. I don't think 247 did this without checking with someone on the staff that would know.

Rivals has him listed as a Dual Threat QB.

Repeat: The Staff CANNOT talk to 247 about prospects.

[CoverTwo]

Originally Posted by sgacock

Repeat: The Staff CANNOT talk to 247 about prospects.

You'd be in for a surprise if you really knew the ins and outs of that kind of business.

[jayceecock]

Originally Posted by sgacock

Repeat: The Staff CANNOT talk to 247 about prospects.

I changed it to sources.

You feel better now?

[jayceecock]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

You'd be in for a surprise if you really knew the ins and outs of that kind of business.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

[Herbie3]

Things look good for Gamecocks landing Feaster. I wasn't wrong on KC Crosby, and i feel the same about Feaster.

[usc1]

Originally Posted by jayceecock

How good is Tavien's 10.59 in the 100m?

Here are the best times for the top backs in the 2014 class:

Leonard Fournette - 10.78
Dalvin Cook - 10.92
Sony Michel - 10.64
Joe Mixon - 10.90
Elijah Hood - 11.14
Derrell Scott - 11.61

Have a sneaky feeling Fournette along with Chubb are going to run over the SEC the next 3 years. The post Gurley/Davis era if you will.