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Old 07-10-2014, 10:24 PM   #901
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With Turner now on board who is the most probable guy to pair with him that we could land? Is it basically between Bradrick Shaw, Ty'son Williams, and Johnny Fraiser? Maybe an outside shot with Scarlett if he visits?
probably Shaw, Williams and Fraiser....in that order....but things could change after Fraiser's visit.

We also might get a visit from one of the 4* Miami commits.
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Of course it is early in the process. No other team in the top 20 has more than 19 except BC at #17, which has 23 (all 3-stars).

Congratulations to all of the recruits and welcome aboard.

Thank you coaches for a great recruiting class so far.
I think you will see Sharrod and Mark Fields ratings increase after these camps.
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Not real big on the ratings. Yeah, they get a lot right, but a lot of kids don't want to put in the work once they get away from home. They would rather party. Can't measure desire.
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Long way to go but this is sure neat to see thank you for sharing.
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the absolute largest class we can have is 30....25 regular and 5 EE....
I haven't read a lot of recent posts in this thread, so forgive me if I am going off track here assuming you are stating the max we can fit is 30. We may only take 29-30 but with the restrictions on scholarships are gone for this class, there is a way to play with the numbers.

25 LOI's signed is the rule. Moving on, HS kids that EE do not sign a LOI which is why UTk enrolled 14 kids as EE's. So if you got room to count back and you have scholarships to give (attrition the staff will make happen) the class can be huge even with the new rules (25LOI's). Kids from HS that EE sign financial aid agreements, not LOI's.

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If our 14 seniors left, 4 juniors left - we are at 23 available. If 10 kids left the program for whatever reasons (not a 5th year, transfer for PT, kicked off, injury, home sick) we would have 33 available scholarships. You sign 25 kids with LOI's (HS and JUCOs) and you EE 8-10 kids, mostly high school recruits. Obviously there could be overlap here as in 22 LOI's to HS kids, 3 JUCO's, and 8 HS EE's, the JUCO's don't matter here as they already went against the 25. That means guys like Paris Palmer from JUCO that will enroll early count against the 25 but HS kids like Mark Fields do not.

Now, if you were not giving us a hard # of 30 signed (25 LOI's, 5 EE), forgive me, I've been busy and haven't read a lot of this thread as of late but saw your post and responded.
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I haven't read a lot of recent posts in this thread, so forgive me if I am going off track here assuming you are stating the max we can fit is 30. We may only take 29-30 but with the restrictions on scholarships are gone for this class, there is a way to play with the numbers.

25 LOI's signed is the rule. Moving on, HS kids that EE do not sign a LOI which is why UTk enrolled 14 kids as EE's. So if you got room to count back and you have scholarships to give (attrition the staff will make happen) the class can be huge even with the new rules (25LOI's). Kids from HS that EE sign financial aid agreements, not LOI's.



If our 14 seniors left, 4 juniors left - we are at 23 available. If 10 kids left the program for whatever reasons (not a 5th year, transfer for PT, kicked off, injury, home sick) we would have 33 available scholarships. You sign 25 kids with LOI's (HS and JUCOs) and you EE 8-10 kids, mostly high school recruits. Obviously there could be overlap here as in 22 LOI's to HS kids, 3 JUCO's, and 8 HS EE's, the JUCO's don't matter here as they already went against the 25. That means guys like Paris Palmer from JUCO that will enroll early count against the 25 but HS kids like Mark Fields do not.

Now, if you were not giving us a hard # of 30 signed (25 LOI's, 5 EE), forgive me, I've been busy and haven't read a lot of this thread as of late but saw your post and responded.
From everything I've read, we really aren't expecting this class to be over 28-29......you're right on seniors, juniors leaving early, plus an unknown # losses from various attrition. We get our max cap raised to 85 next year also.....although I'm sure you already knew that. The good news is that so far it looks like we are going to have at least 7 EE. Lastly, we don't know for sure how many spots we'll have to count back because we don't know who's going to qualify yet. And I'm sure the coaches will hold a spot or two for oversigns depending on who may want to commit later....for example Fitzpatrick.

Right now we have 82 on scholly, but that includes Wideman, Blue, Smalls, Green and Lammons. We have 14 seniors, but one of them is Hull.....he could lose his job this year.
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Just saw on ESPNU where clemson has the nukber two class fpr 2015 so far. Why in the world do they recruit so much better than us?
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Just saw on ESPNU where clemson has the nukber two class fpr 2015 so far. Why in the world do they recruit so much better than us?
according to Rivals, we are #2 they are #4.....
they have one 5*, seven 4* and ten 3*
we have ten 4* and ten 3*....it's my understanding that Rivals takes each schools top 20 and ranks them.
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Showing 21 recruits with AJ Turner.
I'm just as jacked as everyone else is, but let's not forget how we got here. "Recruiting ranking don't matter." HBC just jabbed at Nick Saban for his continual #1 rankings but coming up short when it mattered. We can't take ourselves too seriously yet. Look at UCF....they have the #92 ranked class right now. From BCS bowl victory to #92 ranked class seven months later....things will change. They always do. We need to focus on the guys we brought in and the volume that want to play for the Gamecocks and are signing up earlier than ever. That's powerful
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Just saw on ESPNU where clemson has the nukber two class fpr 2015 so far. Why in the world do they recruit so much better than us?
They don't. They star chase more than we do. Our coaches rely on their own evaluations. Not just recruiting site rankings.
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They don't. They star chase more than we do. Our coaches rely on their own evaluations. Not just recruiting site rankings.

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I got 10K Cocky Cash for anyone that can tell me the last year we got 2 Top 15 ranked football players from the state of VA.

(I don't have a lot of Cocky Cash, so you Cockybillionaires lay off with the wise cracks, j.k.)
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Just saw on ESPNU where clemson has the nukber two class fpr 2015 so far. Why in the world do they recruit so much better than us?
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I got 10K Cocky Cash for anyone that can tell me the last year we got 2 Top 15 ranked football players from the state of VA.

(I don't have a lot of Cocky Cash, so you Cockybillionaires lay off with the wise cracks, j.k.)
Don't know if this is serious question or not but would guess 1973 with Ron Bass at QB. Don't know who other player would be though.
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I got 10K Cocky Cash for anyone that can tell me the last year we got 2 Top 15 ranked football players from the state of VA.

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I would say never.....but that's just a guess.
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I got 10K Cocky Cash for anyone that can tell me the last year we got 2 Top 15 ranked football players from the state of VA.

(I don't have a lot of Cocky Cash, so you Cockybillionaires lay off with the wise cracks, j.k.)
I'm gonna go back and find two USC soccer (football) players from virginia and collect soon..........
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The garnet glasses are strong...
You made that snarky comment just because another poster said we evaluate talent better than Clemson?

We've beaten Clemson 5 freaking times in a row. Reality and results back him up, dude. No garnet glasses needed.
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It's fun to track recruiting rankings, but I try not to put too much stock in them, like most here. It's where our team ranks at the end of each football season that matters. That said, it was pretty cool to wake up this morning and see that we're currently #2 in Rivals' recruiting rankings, behind only Alabama. That is completely unprecedented for us...rarified air indeed. I'm going to breathe it in and enjoy it for a day.
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You made that snarky comment just because another poster said we evaluate talent better than Clemson?

We've beaten Clemson 5 freaking times in a row. Reality and results back him up, dude. No garnet glasses needed.
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That to me says Clemson doesn't rely on their own evaluations but instead sits on Rivals all day. You're kidding right? You realize we shoot out a bunch of offers to 4* and 5* at the beginning of every year hoping we'll get a bite right?

I guess Bama is a bunch of starchasers too. They sure paid the price for that.

I'm not defending Clemson but let's not turn into Taternet with the overwhelming delusion and bias. I don't doubt that we evaluate prospects a little bit better but its funny how BOTH schools have top 5 classes yet they are the star chasers and we aren't.
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Double edged sword. There are lots of teams behind us who recruit top 10 most every year. They have far fewer commitments than we do at this time & some will vault ahead of us as time goes on. Just the nature of the beast.

On the other hand, if USC can land its top JUCO targets, Bailey, a top RB, etc other teams will be much harder pushed to make us fall too far. Good looking class so far, still some significant holes to fill. Very significant holes. Gotta keep pushing & I trust that's exactly what the staff intends to do.
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