CockyTalk

Welcome to Cockytalk!

Thank you for visiting our forum. As a guest, you have limited access to view some discussion and articles. By joining our free community, you will be able to view all discussions and articles, post your own topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, participate in Pick'Em contests and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so please join our community today!!

If you have any problems registering or logging in, please contact our Admins. Thanks!

Go Back   CockyTalk > Other Sports > The Locker Room

Today's Top 10
Posters (by posts)Threads (by views)Newest Posts Gamecock Headlines 
Badazcock
SC Sandlapper
Coulwoodwarlord
CockyBoy09
Gamecocks1137
markymark550
Outland
B-G
Why is everyone anti (2404)
Busta out indefinite (1448)
How did we not make (1365)
Miss St. defense (1131)
Lorenzo Nunez (1122)
SOS says his next st (1111)
Just thought of some (1092)
Our Road Upset Wins (988)
Let us clarify some (740)
No easy road for our (481)
To ANYONE complaining abo
CBSSports SEC prediction
SOS says his next stop is
Michael Sams done in Dall
2015 Chris Silva PF (6-9,
Our Road Upset Wins
World of Warcraft, CSGO,
2016 - Issac Nauta
SI scoring projections
Tevin Mack SG 6-5, 200 (2


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-11-2014, 05:34 PM   #41
ccured
What a Rush!!!
 
ccured's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: columbia sc
Posts: 8,569
CockyCash: 3896416
ccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

germany is clearly the better team
ccured is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 09:12 PM   #42
vincymull
Walk On
 
vincymull's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Provo
Posts: 10
CockyCash: 500
vincymull has hatched from the shell
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Messi is poor in this team! No Xavi or Iniesta! But on the other hand Argentina would be worst without him!
__________________
PCOS Charity
vincymull is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 11:02 PM   #43
Kaka
Bowl MVP
 
Kaka's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: the city
Posts: 2,478
CockyCash: 100500
Kaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

So if Messi doesn't do good what?
__________________
Teach a kid how to read and he will read, teach a kid how to shoot and he will shoot...

Kaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 11:18 PM   #44
Coulwoodwarlord
1st Team All-SEC
 
Coulwoodwarlord's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Charlotte N.C.
Posts: 4,688
CockyCash: 799000
Coulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaka View Post
So if Messi doesn't do good what?
I do believe that Messi is the best player on the planet. If he doesn't "do good" is hard to quantify. His team may lose, but that doesn't tarnish the man, nor his ability. The same goes for Ronaldo............
Coulwoodwarlord is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2014, 11:20 PM   #45
Coulwoodwarlord
1st Team All-SEC
 
Coulwoodwarlord's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Charlotte N.C.
Posts: 4,688
CockyCash: 799000
Coulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot materialCoulwoodwarlord is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Damn Kaka................I thought I could learn something about the game from you.
Coulwoodwarlord is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2014, 02:06 AM   #46
CockyLifer
Gamecocks R US MGMT
 
CockyLifer's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SC Stateofmind!
Posts: 1,558
CockyCash: 89095
CockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPit
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Well 2 of the different quizzes have me picking Tottenham Spurs as my EPL Team. Any opinions on them? Also hearing that Orlando is gonna give it another go at a Florida MLS team!
__________________
USC is in South Carolina.
Carolina is in South Carolina.
THE University of South Carolina IS
THE University of SOUTH CAROLINA!

CockyLifer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2014, 02:11 AM   #47
CockyLifer
Gamecocks R US MGMT
 
CockyLifer's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SC Stateofmind!
Posts: 1,558
CockyCash: 89095
CockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPitCockyLifer rules the CockPit
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Edit above: also just found out that dates are set for a 2nd Miami team attempt and the Atl based team!
__________________
USC is in South Carolina.
Carolina is in South Carolina.
THE University of South Carolina IS
THE University of SOUTH CAROLINA!

CockyLifer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2014, 09:59 PM   #48
Kaka
Bowl MVP
 
Kaka's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: the city
Posts: 2,478
CockyCash: 100500
Kaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coulwoodwarlord View Post
I do believe that Messi is the best player on the planet. If he doesn't "do good" is hard to quantify. His team may lose, but that doesn't tarnish the man, nor his ability. The same goes for Ronaldo............
Jordan is Jordan bc he won when he was supposed to, so does Kobe, so does Ali, so does Maradona, so does Pele...

Now, Messi has an strong team behind him, all he has to do is to make it happen, to do what he does best.

Big boys win big games, that's why they are big boys.
__________________
Teach a kid how to read and he will read, teach a kid how to shoot and he will shoot...

Kaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2014, 10:18 PM   #49
Regalcock
Fawlless
 
Regalcock's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Castle Anthrax
Posts: 14,166
CockyCash: 114508514
Regalcock is USC mascot materialRegalcock is USC mascot materialRegalcock is USC mascot materialRegalcock is USC mascot materialRegalcock is USC mascot materialRegalcock is USC mascot materialRegalcock is USC mascot materialRegalcock is USC mascot materialRegalcock is USC mascot materialRegalcock is USC mascot materialRegalcock is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaka View Post
Jordan is Jordan bc he won when he was supposed to, so does Kobe, so does Ali, so does Maradona, so does Pele...

Now, Messi has an strong team behind him, all he has to do is to make it happen, to do what he does best.

Big boys win big games, that's why they are big boys.
You are making this too black and white.

What if...Messi scores two goals but The Germans win 3/2. Does that still make Messi a choker?
__________________
Regalcock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 11:21 AM   #50
uscjeremynca
2nd Team All-SEC
 
uscjeremynca's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 3,241
CockyCash: 575
uscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaka View Post
Jordan is Jordan bc he won when he was supposed to, so does Kobe, so does Ali, so does Maradona, so does Pele...

Now, Messi has an strong team behind him, all he has to do is to make it happen, to do what he does best.

Big boys win big games, that's why they are big boys.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Jordan didn't win anything until he had Pippen. Maradona had world class players around him (Messi doesn't - their best players failed miserably in this tournament. Messi scored or assisted on 5 of the 8 goals and one other one was the result of a deflection from a Messi pass). Pele had some of the best Brazil teams ever.

Argentina wasn't a strong team. They were fantastic defensively but Messi had zero help on the offensive side of the ball. You can't score, you don't win, and Messi can't do it all by himself. He alone got this team enough chances to make it to the Final. Give him and that defense credit.

He may not be the best of all time but he is clearly the best we have right now.
__________________
Husband, father, saved by grace
uscjeremynca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 01:09 PM   #51
Biocockanics
WMD
 
Biocockanics's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SC
Posts: 1,173
CockyCash: 10260
Biocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Argentina is not a good attacking team at all. They are really good on defense somehow but Messi was totally ineffective despite being laughably faster than his defender.

C.Ronaldo, Messi, Van Persie, Robben, Sneijder will go down in the soccer category of our footballs category of "Dan Marino"...all of them are among the best ever...but they never won the biggest stage.

Does that mean that Messi "choked"? No, now Higuain? Yes, he choked SEVERAL times .

That said, I stand by my comment he is capable of being the best in the world ONLY when surrounded by the best in the world.
__________________
Biocockanics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 02:19 PM   #52
Kaka
Bowl MVP
 
Kaka's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: the city
Posts: 2,478
CockyCash: 100500
Kaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Messi had it, he choked
__________________
Teach a kid how to read and he will read, teach a kid how to shoot and he will shoot...

Kaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 02:22 PM   #53
Kaka
Bowl MVP
 
Kaka's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: the city
Posts: 2,478
CockyCash: 100500
Kaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Quote:
Originally Posted by uscjeremynca View Post
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Jordan didn't win anything until he had Pippen. Maradona had world class players around him (Messi doesn't - their best players failed miserably in this tournament. Messi scored or assisted on 5 of the 8 goals and one other one was the result of a deflection from a Messi pass). Pele had some of the best Brazil teams ever.

Argentina wasn't a strong team. They were fantastic defensively but Messi had zero help on the offensive side of the ball. You can't score, you don't win, and Messi can't do it all by himself. He alone got this team enough chances to make it to the Final. Give him and that defense credit.

He may not be the best of all time but he is clearly the best we have right now.
Who are those great players Maradona had with him?
__________________
Teach a kid how to read and he will read, teach a kid how to shoot and he will shoot...

Kaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 02:52 PM   #54
COCKYTALKIN
Household Name
 
COCKYTALKIN's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Columbia
Posts: 6,684
CockyCash: 24390296
COCKYTALKIN is USC mascot materialCOCKYTALKIN is USC mascot materialCOCKYTALKIN is USC mascot materialCOCKYTALKIN is USC mascot materialCOCKYTALKIN is USC mascot materialCOCKYTALKIN is USC mascot materialCOCKYTALKIN is USC mascot materialCOCKYTALKIN is USC mascot materialCOCKYTALKIN is USC mascot materialCOCKYTALKIN is USC mascot materialCOCKYTALKIN is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

If I'm a team owner, I take Ronaldo. If I want to win a game, it's a toss up with Messi. Not sure how Messi straps the ball to his ankles and runs through everybody as he does, but it's impressive. Ronaldo is on another level when it comes to athleticism and striking, he looks unnatural in his movements and the ball shoots off his foot like a UFO... 0-1,000mph in no time flat, not sure how he fails to pop the ball. I would like to see him kick a football just once.
__________________
COCKYTALKIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 03:05 PM   #55
Biocockanics
WMD
 
Biocockanics's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SC
Posts: 1,173
CockyCash: 10260
Biocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot materialBiocockanics is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

__________________
Biocockanics is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 03:14 PM   #56
uscjeremynca
2nd Team All-SEC
 
uscjeremynca's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 3,241
CockyCash: 575
uscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaka View Post
Who are those great players Maradona had with him?
Maradona had better players than Messi had. For the good players Messi did have on his team, none of them decided to show up except Mascherano. Argentina losing this World Cup isn't his fault. Messi is the one who got them here (offensively) along with Argentina's defense.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...Cup-final.html

Quote:
Lineker disputes the popular assertion that Messi needs a win over Germany to rank with Maradona: “I understand that argument because he’s from Argentina, and they’re only one game away from doing it. But if you take George Best for example – he’d never have had a chance to win the World Cup. Does that rule him out? Nowadays with the Champions League, the stars are all playing up there anyway. It would massively help his case if they win the World Cup but I don’t think it’s an absolute prerequisite.”

The notion of one-man team is, he maintains, a myth: “The 1986 team had some really good players. They had Jorge Burruchaga, Jorge Valdano, Oscar Ruggeri, Héctor Enrique; and José Luis Brown was a good defender. You can’t win a World Cup with one player. While Maradona did unbelievable things they had good backup.”
__________________
Husband, father, saved by grace
uscjeremynca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 04:37 PM   #57
Kaka
Bowl MVP
 
Kaka's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: the city
Posts: 2,478
CockyCash: 100500
Kaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot materialKaka is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Quote:
Originally Posted by uscjeremynca View Post
Maradona had better players than Messi had. For the good players Messi did have on his team, none of them decided to show up except Mascherano. Argentina losing this World Cup isn't his fault. Messi is the one who got them here (offensively) along with Argentina's defense.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...Cup-final.html
You serious? Viglia left Messi by himself in front of the keeper, he choked, no excuses.
__________________
Teach a kid how to read and he will read, teach a kid how to shoot and he will shoot...

Kaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 04:48 PM   #58
uscjeremynca
2nd Team All-SEC
 
uscjeremynca's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 3,241
CockyCash: 575
uscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot materialuscjeremynca is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaka View Post
You serious? Viglia left Messi by himself in front of the keeper, he choked, no excuses.
Yes, he missed one. Did he choke? No. He missed a shot. He's missed plenty in his career. Granted, he's missed a lot less shots than Ronaldo. Even Maradona missed shots.

However, there is no way Argentina is in the Final without Messi.
__________________
Husband, father, saved by grace
uscjeremynca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 05:10 PM   #59
ccured
What a Rush!!!
 
ccured's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: columbia sc
Posts: 8,569
CockyCash: 3896416
ccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

I think Messi came up small in the knockout stages. You can talk all you want about how he was involved in 5 out of 8 goals but come on. He didn't score after the group stage and had 1 assist and it was in the first game of the knockouts. He did absolutely nothing in the last 3 games. He didn't deserve the golden ball. Mueller had 5 goals and 3 assists. Personally I think JRod should have gotten the ball for scoring in every game he played in. 6 goals and 2 assists he deserved the Golden Ball.
ccured is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2014, 05:13 PM   #60
ccured
What a Rush!!!
 
ccured's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: columbia sc
Posts: 8,569
CockyCash: 3896416
ccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot materialccured is USC mascot material
Default Re: Messi vs Germany

never would say that Messi is overrated and he definitely makes his team better
ccured is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Provided by SLB Development