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Old 08-17-2014, 05:18 PM   #81
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What if we were playing them during Johnny Manzeil's freshman season... he looked pretty good having never taken a collegiate snap.

What if we were playing FSU during Jameis' first start... he was decent having never taken a collegiate snap... you know, winning a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Don't overlook guys just because they haven't played yet in college.

Our defense is young and we are implementing a new system, all evidence says we will be better than last season, but you never know until the game starts.
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What if we were playing them during Johnny Manzeil's freshman season... he looked pretty good having never taken a collegiate snap.

What if we were playing FSU during Jameis' first start... he was decent having never taken a collegiate snap... you know, winning a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Don't overlook guys just because they haven't played yet in college.

Our defense is young and we are implementing a new system, all evidence says we will be better than last season, but you never know until the game starts.
http://www.12thman.com/ViewArticle.d...CLID=205238864

Johnny Manziel first game loss to Fla @ College Station and then loses to LSU @ College Station!

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http://www.seminoles.com/ViewContent...TENT_ID=956246 No doubt he is good but If he had played in the SEC I think the record and year would have gone differently!
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Old 08-17-2014, 05:51 PM   #83
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Kenny Hill is a very talented QB.

He has an elite arm. His dad is an above .500 starting pitcher in MLB (Ken Hill). He was a three year starter at South Lake Carrol high School, arguably the best high school football program in the state of texas. He won a 5a division 1 (the highest level of play in the state of texas) state championship with SLC the same season he won the texas high school gatorade player of the year.

With the exception of Kyle Allen, he is arguably the most talented QB (coming out of high school) that A&M has ever recruited. During his freshman season at A&M, during garbage time mostly, he had higher completion percentages than Johnny and had a couple of incredible deep passes all running with the second string offense.

If there was ever a young qb to fear it is Kenny Hill. He has one of the absolute best OLs and RB corps in the country at his disposal as well as one of one of the most talented set of receivers to which he can throw the ball.

Not saying he is going to single handidly win the game or not be effected by the pressure of the game, but the kid is good I would not dismiss him in Sumlins offense.
I think that's more of a biased opinion

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/i...unning-backs-6

Idk if you can say "one of the best" when you're 5th in the SEC. Very solid and even good but not "one of the best".
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http://www.seminoles.com/ViewContent...TENT_ID=956246 No doubt he is good but If he had played in the SEC I think the record and year would have gone differently!
Their entire season would have been different if they played in this conference. But sssshhhhh don't tell any clem5on fan that.
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Hill played at Southlake Carroll High School in Dallas, which is a power house school that has produced some pretty good QB's. Greg McElroy (Alabama) and Chase Daniels (Mizzou and Kansas City Chiefs/New Orleans Saints). Glad they picked a Texas product over a 5 star QB from Arizona. Hill has experience in big Texas high school games...where the other prob hasn't.
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The odds of A&M finding 2 diamonds at the same position in a row are slim to none.
No one here is saying or implying that the kid is going to the next johnny. But the kid is talented, and is perfectly capable of winning football games.
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At Southlake Carroll he was the Texas Gatorade Player of the Year in 2012 after completing 139-of-209 passes for 2,291 yards and 20 TDs with 102 carries for 905 yards and 22 TDs in 2012.

He also led the Dragons to a 5A State Championship in 2011 where hec ompleted 243-of-286 passes for 3,014 yards and 25 TDs with 9 INTs; rushed for 280 carries, gaining 1,400 yards and 24 TDs.

Hill is a mobile quarterback with a strong arm. If the play isn’t developing or the pocket is collapsing Hill is able to use his legs to make something happen.

Hill is bigger than Manziel at 6-1, 215-pounds but much like Manziel he was a high school baseball player as well in high school. Hill was considered an MLB prospect but committed to A&M in April of 2012.
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So what we have here is a young gunslinger going up against our young backfield.
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That kid is really good, but he'll likely be too confident coming into this one. He'll have some big gainers with his legs, but I guarantee he turns the ball over multiple times. His best chance is on broken plays. He won't be able to keep up with our scoring.
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That kid is really good, but he'll likely be too confident coming into this one. He'll have some big gainers with his legs, but I guarantee he turns the ball over multiple times. His best chance is on broken plays. He won't be able to keep up with our scoring.
Sadly i feel this may be true. We could keep up but turnovers will negate this. ..
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I got to ask. What o - line will he playing behind? From what I saw last year the pocket wad consistently collapsing. Mind you I'm talking trash. I'm asking a legitimate question. As for the running backs what's your basis on them being the best?
Did you really watch those or see JFF scrambling around on Sports Center Highlights? Not talking smack (as pointed out there is another forum for that) but many times people see the pocket "collapse" after he has had tons of time and there was no open receiver initially. Also take into account that many times JFF would not just slide over when a defender got a good push, he would take off. That didn't mean that the pocket was collapsing.

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Valid points Yazoo. So would it be ok to say that we have "arguably" the best OL and "arguably" the most talented set of receivers? One could make that argument and not just an Aggie fan, but several sports writers who watch stuff like tihs for a living.
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Some of the games and some sports center. I'm not a manziel fan so I couldn't take but so much. So that's why I asked.
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So what we have here is a young gunslinger going up against our young backfield.
You're predicting a shootout? I can agree with that. Our strong armed Dylan Thompson Vs Tamu's gunslinger?
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Did you really watch those or see JFF scrambling around on Sports Center Highlights? Not talking smack (as pointed out there is another forum for that) but many times people see the pocket "collapse" after he has had tons of time and there was no open receiver initially. Also take into account that many times JFF would not just slide over when a defender got a good push, he would take off. That didn't mean that the pocket was collapsing.



Valid points Yazoo. So would it be ok to say that we have "arguably" the best OL and "arguably" the most talented set of receivers? One could make that argument and not just an Aggie fan, but several sports writers who watch stuff like tihs for a living.
If you believe it, you could say that. Who knows what is going to happen this year. It's not unreasonable.

As for the RBs and QB, I'm not one who puts a lot of stock in the recruiting services and HS accolades. I've seen too many occasions when they don't translate to the collegiate level. Even with all your 5 star backs, your comments there about A&Ms backs being the best in the nation may be a stretch. Keep in mind, we have to listen to garbage like this from the other South Carolina school in the Upstate. So, we are cynics.
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If a freshman is a test we need to look at other options on defensive coaching
Johnny Football won the Heisman as a freshman .
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Johnny Football won the Heisman as a freshman .

I keep reading about Kenny Hilll is a freshman. He PLAYED in FOUR A&M games last season. Am I missing something?

I think that A&M and South Carolina have VERY similar question marks as to just how good or great we both might be. Frankly I think the game has the makings of being a shoot out where the last team with the ball wins the game. I hope not. I hope A&M turns the ball over a few times and we win convincingly with our offense setting the tone and limiting A&M's chances with great clock management on our part.

We (supposedly) have this awesome stable of running backs although David Williams has yet to be able to run four times without putting his yellow jersey back on (worrisome). I hope we play ball control and win big. However the TRUTH is we don't REALLY know how Dylan is going to respond. He could easily throw 2-3 picks and A&M could run away with the game. Our centers could easily roll 2-3 snaps back on the ground and A&M capitalize on those.

It COULD happen that both A&M's offense AND OURS are non-stop scoring machines and our defenses are porous. Then all bets are off.

As for me - I think we're going to be p-r-e-t-t-y good on defense and better than that on offense and I think we will win by 10-14 points or more.

But back to my reason for posting - why are a lot of people calling Hill a freshman? He played for A&M last season. He is a Sophomore.
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But back to my reason for posting - why are a lot of people calling Hill a freshman? He played for A&M last season. He is a Sophomore.
Yeah, what's up with this?
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This is an example of what is irritating about some A&M fans. The A&M OL is potentially one of the best in the SEC. To say they are the "absolute best" or your receivers are the "most talented set" as you did is an exaggeration and makes you seem extremely biased in your views. It undermines the credibility of the rest of your post. Besides, you lack humility and you appear to be arrogant with such posts on an opposing teams message board. If you intended it as smack, you are posting in the wrong board and you should be in the smack board.

You should realize before you post that USC was ranked higher in the OL in a recent published ranking. Now it is pre-season and I realize that our OL maybe isn't the best in the SEC. I would be happy to suggest it has a chance, but that is as far as one can really go with this pre-season assessment of talent and teams. See what I mean.
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FYI, "one of" =! "the." Seriously, you even say, "The A&M OL is potentially one of the best in the SEC." It's your second sentence. Then you just totally gloss over how he said THE EXACT SAME THING and start putting words in his mouth so you can complain. Maybe we wouldn't irritate you so much if you took the time to read before flying off the handle.

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