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Old 08-19-2014, 01:23 PM   #381
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Shaw looked good, the TD however was a double bounce Hail Mary... One preseason game playing with 3's and 4's does not an NFL starter make

Not what anyone on this site wants to hear, but come on guys think with your head and not your heart...

Do I think JFF is ready to start week 1??? Nope, but he will start at some point and the upside is much higher.
Sorry to say this buddy but you need to think with your head and not your heart. Your little daddy's boy got taken to the woodshed by Shaw. No way around it. JFF might wanna pay more attention to that play book like Shaw instead of snorting cocaine and riding swans.
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Shaw looked good, the TD however was a double bounce Hail Mary... One preseason game playing with 3's and 4's does not an NFL starter make

Not what anyone on this site wants to hear, but come on guys think with your head and not your heart...

Do I think JFF is ready to start week 1??? Nope, but he will start at some point and the upside is much higher.
Please! Johnny Football will implode as soon as things start going south and he starts taking some heat. The little punk will go out and get a DUI or get arrested in a bar fight or something stupid.

We've all (gamecock fans) seen how this plays out. Shaw was behind another QB named Stephen Garcia and it was the same scenario. Shaw will prevail. Heck, He's already taller, faster and smarter than JF and then you add his unbelievable work ethic. At the very least, he'll outwork Manziel and supplant him soon enough. Just watch it play out.

The only thing that Shaw has going against him is that the preseason is running out and they will have to settle on a starter this week and he just hasn't had enough opportunities....yet.
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I think anyone on here saying this: "Shaw will be a great backup to someone, no way he should start on an NFL roster" honestly is just trying to play it safe in their head. That way they don't get let down later on in this board if he doesn't make it. Complete horse shit. All of those games he won for us, as proud of a guy he is, and humble to boot. Y'all want to say he isn't starter material!? Got me heated. Connor Shaw will be a force in the NFL someday. He wants to succeed, he is an absolute warrior, and he has a chance at a lifelong dream. Not to mention to support his wife and child. Gotta be crazy as hell not to think he won't make it. Shame.


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Old 08-19-2014, 02:34 PM   #385
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:37 PM   #386
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[quote=Aggie96;4229947]Shaw looked good, the TD however was a double bounce Hail Mary... One preseason game playing with 3's and 4's does not an NFL starter make

Not what anyone on this site wants to hear, but come on guys think with your head and not your heart...
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That "double bounce Hail Mary" pass initially hit a Cleveland receiver right in the hands and bounced out to another one. It should have been a clean catch, so don't discount it.

The incomplete pass he made was a perfect throw that hit a Cleveland reciever in the hands, too.

What Shaw did last night does not merit him as a starter, but it is deserving of more time in practice with the hope he can get some quality playing time to see if he can do well with either the first or second stringers.

Shaw is advanced over Manziel in the knowledge of the playbook right now, not a minor thing. He had the permission of Spurrier to change any play at Carolina and did so, from time to time, and has the maturity Manziel will likely never find. Does that make him a NFL starter? No, but it should allow him a fair shot with the Browns or somewhere else.

Manziel is is own worst enemy. He has the talent to do well, but taking the easy way out of depending on natural athletic ability and little else at this level of football does not bode well for the immediate future. Will he be a NFL starter? Probably so due to his draft status and noteriety, good or bad. It also likely gives him a shorter time frame to succeed for his act will soon go stale without some "W's" to wash it down.
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Simply put: Manziel was a great college QB and perfect for the offense they ran at A&M. He had some unbelievable ad lib plays. But the NFL is too big and talented to allow him to do that week in and out.
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Which quarterback should Mike Pettine pick as the starter against Pittsburgh?
Connor Shaw 68.74% (4,911 votes)


Brian Hoyer 17.81% (1,272 votes)


Johnny Manziel 10.32% (737 votes)


Rex Grossman 2.31% (165 votes)


Other: 1% (59 votes)



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Connor Shaw 71.1% (6,105 votes)

Brian Hoyer 16.21% (1,392 votes)

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Manziel can make plays and is athletic. Connor is just a better QB.

There are many Heisman winners and high profile QBs who were busts. I believe Manziel will be one of those. He isn't a great QB and he's proven that.
I'm all for seeing our Gamecocks succeed but there's no NFL GM who would take Shaw over Manziel. Shaw has better intangibles but he's not a better quarterback.

It was a crazy play to cap off a boring game but a hail Mary touchdown against 3rd and 4th teamers is hardly noteworthy.
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I'm all for seeing our Gamecocks succeed but there's no NFL GM who would take Shaw over Manziel. Shaw has better intangibles but he's not a better quarterback.

It was a crazy play to cap off a boring game but a hail Mary touchdown against 3rd and 4th teamers is hardly noteworthy.
Well Hail Mary's are just that, throw it up for grabs. The fact he put the ball where it needed to be, didn't take sacks and basically tied the game up is pretty noteworthy. What the hell has Manziel done that was noteworthy lately? Give the Redskins the finger, that's it.
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I'm all for seeing our Gamecocks succeed but there's no NFL GM who would take Shaw over Manziel. Shaw has better intangibles but he's not a better quarterback.

It was a crazy play to cap off a boring game but a hail Mary touchdown against 3rd and 4th teamers is hardly noteworthy.
Exactly. Our best hope for Shaw is that he makes the team as a #3 or another team if the Browns cut him.

He's not starting for the Browns lol
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Will he start? Probably not. However, he sure made the Cleveland OC look good. I bet the coach is giving some serious thought to it. His job is on the line. If Maziel and Hoyer continue to stink it up, stranger things have happened.
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Exactly. Our best hope for Shaw is that he makes the team as a #3 or another team if the Browns cut him.

He's not starting for the Browns lol
Connor not starting for the browns may be his blessing in all of this. jff's little finger shows his character- Connor's play shows his character. which would you choose ?
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Exactly. Our best hope for Shaw is that he makes the team as a #3 or another team if the Browns cut him.

He's not starting for the Browns lol
Connor not starting may be his blessing from all of this. somebody saw what was evident last night. jff's little finger showed his character and Connor's play showed his. which would you choose?
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Connor not starting may be his blessing from all of this. somebody saw what was evident last night. jff's little finger showed his character and Connor's play showed his. which would you choose?
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Connor not starting may be his blessing from all of this. somebody saw what was evident last night. jff's little finger showed his character and Connor's play showed his. which would you choose?
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Did ANYONE else watching the game last night think, "Damn this looks EXACTLY like every game that Connor played at USC!"

He scrambled and gained yards; he threw under pressure...well; and he simply moved the chains. He put up good numbers and led them down the field against PRO FOOTBALL PLAYERS (regardless of 2nd team, 3rd team) and his post game remarks are only about his regret of the 2 point play. THAT is quintessential Connor Shaw and from the "other dude" we get MORE drama (flipping the bird). Didn't know that was an NFL offense worthy of a fine...but it's JUST ANOTHER negative thing that Manziel has thrown into the mix. He's a baby. He's immature. He's entitled. He thinks he's above it all and everyone else.

Connor Shaw? Jeez, he's JUST a winner.
great post!

yeah, i was thinking the exact same thing, while watching connor. he looked just like he always did at usc. and it was working! how can the browns see this guys work ethic, and still keep spouting all the jf crap?

another thing to point out, is shaw started that drive at his own 9. when was jf in that situation.? the lone td throw jf has made all preseason, was a two yard screen, and the back did all of that work. that td had almost nothing to do with manziel. his escapability hasn't done crap for him, and his throws have been awful. but it would not hurt my feelings if connor was released, so he could be picked up by a better team.
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