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Old 08-19-2014, 03:50 PM   #121
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Help me out as I don't know as much about defense formations. There is a 4-2-5, where you have 2 LB, and FS, SS, Nickle, and 2 corner?

The 4-3-4 is 4 DL, 3 LB, and SS, FS, 2 corner?

And 3-3-5 is 3 DL, 3 LB, and SS, FS, Nickle, and 2 corner?

If we play 4 WR sets and spread out, would a 4-2-5 open up the middle a little bit if we decide to run the hell out of the ball while nursing along an inexperienced QB?
What you're describing isn't a 4-2-5 but a nickel package which has 3 CBs. The 4-2-5 we run has a hybrid LB/Safety position we call the Spur position. We have defended the middle run fairly well. We actually struggled more against outside runs last year. With our lack of depth and inexperience at corner I think that'll be your best place to attack.
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What you're describing isn't a 4-2-5 but a nickel package which has 3 CBs. The 4-2-5 we run has a hybrid LB/Safety position we call the Spur position. We have defended the middle run fairly well. We actually struggled more against outside runs last year. With our lack of depth and inexperience at corner I think that'll be your best place to attack.
The hardest part for USC defensively is going to be the uptempo and not being able make substitutions as we move back and forth from spreading the field with 4 or 5 wide right to a power formation with 6'5" 280 lb Cam Clear moving in as a lead blocking back and 6'6" RSJ moving in at tight end (where a lot of people think he should play anyway) creating mismatches all over the place.

I Expect to see that often. Makes it easy to do when your receivers are fast enough to be receivers, but big enough to be tight ends and fullbacks.
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The hardest part for USC defensively is going to be the uptempo and not being able make substitutions as we move back and forth from spreading the field with 4 or 5 wide right to a power formation with 6'5" 280 lb Cam Clear moving in as a lead blocking back and 6'6" RSJ moving in at tight end (where a lot of people think he should play anyway) creating mismatches all over the place.

I Expect to see that often. Makes it easy to do when your receivers are fast enough to be receivers, but big enough to be tight ends and fullbacks.
Sounds like the same talk North Carolina was yabbing about this time last year. No offense. We've played tempo offense teams before. I don't remember losing to any of them recently though.
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An up tempo offense is useless when it's sitting on the bench. When you already have a suspect defense you want to keep them off the field. Spurrier will hopefully grind away with long demoralizing drives. A&M will score quickly or punt putting an already tired D back on the field for another long grinding drive.
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Sounds like the same talk North Carolina was yabbing about this time last year. No offense. We've played tempo offense teams before. I don't remember losing to any of them recently though.
The point here is not just the uptempo pace, but the personnel that are moving around in there without having to substitute. We can move from a power I tight set to a 5 wide and run it very effectively without having to change anyone. That was something that Carolina couldn't do as effective as we will.

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The point here is not just the uptempo pace, but the personnel that are moving around in there without having to substitute. We can move from a power I tight set to a 5 wide and run it very effectively without having to change anyone. That was something that Carolina couldn't do as effective as we will.

Multiple looks with Same people = sleepless nights for DC's who have to prepare for it.
Color me skeptical of you switching between a 5 wide set and power I with the same personnel. One of those sets is not going to be effective.
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Color me skeptical of you switching between a 5 wide set and power I with the same personnel. One of those sets is not going to be effective.
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The size and speed of Clear and RSJ make that possible with the speed of Trey Williams or Brandon Williams as the RB who can also line up as a receiver in the 5 wide.

Keep an eye out on it, I bet it happens more than once.
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Color me skeptical of you switching between a 5 wide set and power I with the same personnel. One of those sets is not going to be effective.
I kinda have to agree. Simply because ya'll have been bragging about all your stud wideouts yet you're going to run a lot of packages where your running back is split out wide just to not substitute so we don't get to as well? Specially when Carson and Williams had a combined 13 catches last year. I'm not really buying it either
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The point here is not just the uptempo pace, but the personnel that are moving around in there without having to substitute. We can move from a power I tight set to a 5 wide and run it very effectively without having to change anyone. That was something that Carolina couldn't do as effective as we will.

Multiple looks with Same people = sleepless nights for DC's who have to prepare for it.
Wow, if only we had a hybrid safety/linebacker and true LB's that were good in pass coverage and ball hawks in a defensive scheme that is designed to beat pass-happy hurry-up teams and incorporates a healthy dose of zone blitzes and man to man that has traditionally proven effective against HUNH teams with multiple sets when coupled with a clock-control offense.
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The point here is not just the uptempo pace, but the personnel that are moving around in there without having to substitute. We can move from a power I tight set to a 5 wide and run it very effectively without having to change anyone. That was something that Carolina couldn't do as effective as we will.

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I kinda have to agree. Simply because ya'll have been bragging about all your stud wideouts yet you're going to run a lot of packages where your running back is split out wide just to not substitute so we don't get to as well? Specially when Carson and Williams had a combined 13 catches last year. I'm not really buying it either
Our RB Coach was calling the plays for all but the duke game last season. and ironically he didnt use the backs much, or the TE clear....

Our QB Coach who replaced Kliff is calling the plays and he "wants to get everyone involved."

also our backs have spent some practices's with the receivers so be ready for that. our offensive play calls will be A LOT different than last year.
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Who is the Jenny Mills chick that will be quarterbacking for AnM?
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Our RB Coach was calling the plays for all but the duke game last season. and ironically he didnt use the backs much, or the TE clear....

Our QB Coach who replaced Kliff is calling the plays and he "wants to get everyone involved."

also our backs have spent some practices's with the receivers so be ready for that. our offensive play calls will be A LOT different than last year.
So you are saying your Running backs can catch the football?
Never seen that before.
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The point here is not just the uptempo pace, but the personnel that are moving around in there without having to substitute. We can move from a power I tight set to a 5 wide and run it very effectively without having to change anyone. That was something that Carolina couldn't do as effective as we will.

Multiple looks with Same people = sleepless nights for DC's who have to prepare for it.
We're an SEC defense. We're not going to put a bunch of tiny corners out there just because you want to go spread. We have physical safeties and line backers that can cover and play the run. We have a lot of slashers and they are opportunistic. With the crowd noise, it's not going to be easy for your inexperienced QB to execute to take advantage of any matchups you think are in your favor. We're going bring linebackers often to pressure your QB and plan on making him very uncomfortable back there. If you want to do the powerrun switcheroo we'll be ready. If you think one 280lb blocker is going to be your trump card, good luck. As big as he is, we plenty on defense fast enough to go around him.
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Both of our tight ends are just as good as what A&M has at that position. Your tight end is not anything special in the SEC. Just about all SEC teams have a great player at that position. You should save it for your noncon opponents.
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Sounds like the same talk North Carolina was yabbing about this time last year. No offense. We've played tempo offense teams before. I don't remember losing to any of them recently though.
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I can't wait for next Friday! This place will be cleaned up of these aggies!

It should be a good game, but Carolina will win by 14+
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Sounds like the same talk North Carolina was yabbing about this time last year. No offense. We've played tempo offense teams before. I don't remember losing to any of them recently though.
Pretty sure Klemz'n runs an up-tempo offense. Haven't scored more than 17 against us in the last 5 years.
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In fact, Thompson controlled the ball for 40 minutes against Clemson in 2012. I think we had something like 65 plays. If he can do it at Clemson, I'm fairly certain that he can do it at WBS.
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The hardest part for USC defensively is going to be the uptempo and not being able make substitutions as we move back and forth from spreading the field with 4 or 5 wide right to a power formation with 6'5" 280 lb Cam Clear moving in as a lead blocking back and 6'6" RSJ moving in at tight end (where a lot of people think he should play anyway) creating mismatches all over the place.
how often did you guys do that last year? since rsj went down with a knee injury early on. anytime a team can go multiple sets out of the same personnel it can be problematic, but we'll roll with our base personnel no matter what because its what we do even when we face teams that huddle save for maybe a power running team in an extreme short yardage situation.
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