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Old 08-19-2014, 10:45 PM   #421
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Did you see Manziel's presser after the game......the players already hate his ass and if he sticks his finger up again during a game, he may not get it back. He's a punk plain and simple....players don't respect a guy like that. There's a chance he could be in a full body cast by mid-October. the browns have too much invested in him to just let him go. I don't know what's going to happen with connor, but he sure as hell is sitting in a lot better place today than he was yesterday. If Johnny finger has another couple more games like last night, this could get really interesting. something else I find odd, Hoyer isn't any good, if Manziel hasn't been able to clearly beat him out during training camp and two months of OTA's, that leads be to think Johnny isn't that good nor is he that smart. Instead of flying our to Vegas twice a week, he should have been trying to learn the playbook.

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Old 08-20-2014, 12:01 AM   #422
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Played like the Connor we know.
Yes he did...played like he was still in the game v. Wisky...and did not look like a rookie. Makes me wonder if his playing last year did more to prep him for the NFL than we assumed? Especially his awareness of the pass rush in the pocket.
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There were people on the streets of Cleveland, Ohio last night trying to make a point about the poor throws and worst drops by the Browns offense against Washington




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There were people on the streets of Cleveland, Ohio last night trying to make a point about the poor throws and worst drops by the Browns offense against Washington






But are they looting stores and stealing tennis shoes and booze to show their outrage as well???
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Browns just announced Hoyer as the starter.
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Total immature little prick. So glad he never played here.
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After watching the video of Connor's plays, the one thing that stood out to me was how bad that OL was. He did a great job with what he had.

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Here you go AC saw it yesterday, Classic!
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Here you go AC saw it yesterday, Classic!
Thanks bro. Im at work, cant inbed from this computer. Appreciate it. Great Video isn't it?
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Absolutely! This story is fun..added benefit the game between us and tamu next week makes this more fun!
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Old 08-20-2014, 09:58 AM   #432
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Talking about the leadership he"JF" showed to keep the team focused and come back from one of the biggest deficits in bowl history.
JFF's performance in that game and especially the second half was legendary. Sorry if you can't see that

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Aggie...you've gained some credibility around here with many of your posts, but you're quickly losing a lot of it with this "take" on Connor. Much like Gamecock fans couldn't possibly (ever) understand or appreciate JF the way you guys do - you could not understand what we saw in Connor every time he stepped on a field.

Personally I think there's a LOT of similarities in the two QBs and to be honest I am not certain that JF is truly a "STANDARD" NFL talent QB. The right team, the right offense...I think he will do fine in the long run.

The same can be said for Shaw. However the one thing that I think is undeniable is the fact that Manziel is a VERY immature, disrespectful BOY who exhibits an entitlement mentality that seems destined to prevent him from ever being successful in the NFL for a decade or more.

Hell even the Cleveland fanbase voted him THIRD to start the next game. They voted Hoyer second and Shaw a whopping 70%. That tells me that their fan base has already grown tired of his "above it all" mindset and demeanor.

So I wouldn't be too certain about Johnny in the NFL long term. Based on his lifestyle choices before ever getting to Cleveland (rolling up twenties in the bathroom), getting plastered at every turn and hanging with the wonderful crowd he's hanging with (Bieber, etc) - it's only a matter of time before he'll fail a drug test or two.

Would it SURPRISE ANYONE if it came out tomorrow that he'd failed a drug test? Hell no. Also, he probably can't handle the kind of performance that he had Monday night mentally. I can see those kinds of performance doing a number on him.

How about if he performs poorly at this next game in Cleveland? How about if the fans boo him? Can you see JF flipping THEM the bird? I can.

I think there's a good chance that JF won't even be around in 4-5 years.

That said - Connor may not either, but right now I'd say the odds are about the same for both QBs despite all the talk of how talented JF is.

Personally I think most coaches would tell you that they'd take five Connor Shaw's for a Johnny Football any day of the week.

We'll see how it all plays out. My money is on Shaw.
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Today, Cleveland announced Hoyer as the starter for Game 1 with Manziel as backup. With 2 exib games to go and poor performances by both against Washington, it seems a little hasty. I hope this doesn't mean Connor's reps will be even more limited in the last 2. I think he certainly earned more shots in his appearance this week.
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Today, Cleveland announced Hoyer as the starter for Game 1 with Manziel as backup. With 2 exib games to go and poor performances by both against Washington, it seems a little hasty. I hope this doesn't mean Connor's reps will be even more limited in the last 2. I think he certainly earned more shots in his appearance this week.

Shaw needs to get out of that shithole Cleveland. They spent their money on JFF, and he is their future. Waste of money? Only time will tell. But Shaw will never get a true shot when they have JFF show me the money on the team. Shaw needs to be cut, so a team that wants a real QB and not two scrubs can bring him on.

I never was a Manziel fan. Not that I hate aTm at all, but always thought he was way overhyped. He is definitely not starter material either in the NFL. All that running around is gonna get his head knocked off, which it needs to be.
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Shaw needs to get out of that shithole Cleveland. They spent their money on JFF, and he is their future. Waste of money? Only time will tell. But Shaw will never get a true shot when they have JFF show me the money on the team. Shaw needs to be cut, so a team that wants a real QB and not two scrubs can bring him on.

I never was a Manziel fan. Not that I hate aTm at all, but always thought he was way overhyped. He is definitely not starter material either in the NFL. All that running around is gonna get his head knocked off, which it needs to be.
I thought that Manziel was one of the most electric players I had ever seen in college. He also had a cannon for an arm. I think that Manziel's problem is that he is not very big and when I watched him the other night, he could not outrun the defensive players like he could in college and that definitely will bue a crimp in his style of quarterback play. I think that Manziel will only be a productive NFL quarterback if he can learn to settle down in the pocket and only move if need be. His play the other night reminded me a lot of some of Connor's first games at USC...he used to run first and then throw while as a Brown Connor looked much more comfortable. I guess I may be the only one on this board, but I can see why they selected Manziel based on arm strength alone but the off the field stuff is certainly a distraction.
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Manziel is not a good fit period for the city of Cleveland. He belongs in Miami or L.A if it had a pro team. Cleveland is a blue collar city and Manziel is no where near blue collar. Shaw is the perfect QB for that town. Shaw's a guy who comes to work early, puts down his lunch pale, goes to work, and doesn't stop till the whistle blows. That's the kind of guy he is and that's the type of QB Cleveland needs. 70% of the people in Cleveland voted that he should be the starter! Some may say he's not ready for prime time. He played in the toughest league in college football. Beat some of the best teams, played in front of thousands of fans, and played for a Hall of Fame coach. Not ready for prime time? Give Shaw his shot and then Cleveland will see the Superman that Shaw is.
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Hoyer and JF could get banged this year. Shaw just might see some PT this year in Cleveland...
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I thought that Manziel was one of the most electric players I had ever seen in college. He also had a cannon for an arm. I think that Manziel's problem is that he is not very big and when I watched him the other night, he could not outrun the defensive players like he could in college and that definitely will bue a crimp in his style of quarterback play. I think that Manziel will only be a productive NFL quarterback if he can learn to settle down in the pocket and only move if need be. His play the other night reminded me a lot of some of Connor's first games at USC...he used to run first and then throw while as a Brown Connor looked much more comfortable. I guess I may be the only one on this board, but I can see why they selected Manziel based on arm strength alone but the off the field stuff is certainly a distraction.


I don't get why people think Manziel has a cannon for an arm. Yes, this is his freshman year, but when compared to Marcus Mariota, Manziel's arm seems pedestrian.
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He is definitely not starter material either in the NFL.
He's a rookie...few rookies are ready for the NFL...I'm not sure the coaches at Cleve know what they're doing with any of their QBs. This may be more of a coaching thing than Manziel.
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