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Old 08-24-2014, 02:11 PM   #61
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So sick of what football has become. Geared more and more for a generation of wussies.
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Vic Hampton knocked out Stave. DJ was already with the Texans last year.


facepalm...you are right. That hit was DJ esque though...
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dj does play reckless no one can deny that
Like you are supposed to!

This ain't soccer or tennis. Football is rough and it is dangerous and you must accept those facts before you step on the field and strap on the pads.

On defense, your job is to inflict as much pain into your opponent...in a sportsmanlike way.

People will get hurt- everyone needs to get over that. If you are concerned that you may get concussions then avoid NFL, stay in school, graduate, and get an office job.

These days defenders are so damn confused because they don't know what is a legal tackle...they lead with their shoudlerpads into upper body, flag. Tackle low at the legs to avoid penalty- accused of trying to break a leg and ruin someone's career.

Basically any big hit is viewed as unnecessary or "too rough." Some people, including myself, used to live for the big hit when we played the game. The tenacity, pinpoint planning and timing, and physical prowess it takes to land one of those hits is completely athletic.
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I will try to find the link from last season. I was working in Houston and there was an article where his position coach criticized DJ for playing out of position and not playing with enough discipline. Said he gets burned too much by playing out of position. I will look at my calendar to find the dates I was in Houston and link the article.
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So sick of what football has become. Geared more and more for a generation of wussies.
I wouldn't say for wusses, but they are making it too much of a business. You get crazy money for a reason. Man up or change professions.
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So sick of what football has become. Geared more and more for a generation of wussies.
It's all about greed. It's because of lawsuits. No one wants to be sued for hundreds of millions. These ex-players and their PR teams are putting on their sob stories and playing victims and the public is eating it up. And it is all to get these ex-players more money. The rule changes by the NFL are so they look better in court and get more favorable decisions.

The Swearinger hit was perfectly legal. He didn't leave his feet, he lead with his shoulder and not his helmet. His elbow caught Welker's helmet only because Welker ducked. Eventually this could be illegal too as NFL is going the way of touch-football.
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Replay should remove the penalty if the hit was shown legal
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I will try to find the link from last season. I was working in Houston and there was an article where his position coach criticized DJ for playing out of position and not playing with enough discipline. Said he gets burned too much by playing out of position. I will look at my calendar to find the dates I was in Houston and link the article.
Well, he was a rookie. "not enough discipline" is to be expected of a rookie. Being out of position is more the coach's fault. It's the coaches job to put him in the right position. There is nothing "reckless" about any of that.
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I wouldn't say for wusses, but they are making it too much of a business. You get crazy money for a reason. Man up or change professions.
You say that but go to an NFL training room after game day and it is brutal. For all of the folks complaining about how easy the game has become, I know several old time NFL guys who say they wouldn't play today with size and speed of players.
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Well, he was a rookie. "not enough discipline" is to be expected of a rookie. Being out of position is more the coach's fault. It's the coaches job to put him in the right position. There is nothing "reckless" about any of that.
It was after a game that the Texans lost where Swearinger had two personal foul penaltiesn the game winning drive then lost his man for the touchdown. That's on swearinger. Just last week against the Falcons, he made a play to stop a drive then got flagged for excessive celebrating which kept the drive alive. The Falcons scored. That's undisciplined. In a money game you can't do that.
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I will try to find the link from last season. I was working in Houston and there was an article where his position coach criticized DJ for playing out of position and not playing with enough discipline. Said he gets burned too much by playing out of position. I will look at my calendar to find the dates I was in Houston and link the article.
OMG!!! A defensive rookie out of position. Defensive rookies play out of position. They make mistakes. They're rookies. If a Texans writer needed a story last year it should have ran with their experienced QB forgetting what color uniforms the Texans wore.
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You say that but go to an NFL training room after game day and it is brutal. For all of the folks complaining about how easy the game has become, I know several old time NFL guys who say they wouldn't play today with size and speed of players.
They are well compensated for their work, they have nothing to complain about. Don't like the brutality go find a desk job.
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IMO excessive celebrating penalty may as well result in a 1 quarter suspension .. I hate when we are called ..
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You say that but go to an NFL training room after game day and it is brutal. For all of the folks complaining about how easy the game has become, I know several old time NFL guys who say they wouldn't play today with size and speed of players.
Yea. They wouldn't play because they're too slow and too small. Everyone is bigger and faster. They're all on an even playin field.
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DJ is still starting. If the coaches don't like him, why don't they bench him?
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Hate it for Wes, that may be it for him, he needs to think about his long-term health at this point.

Looked like a clean hit to me.
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You can't be more effectively tackled that to be knocked out on the ground. If you don't like the way he tackles than, fine, but you can't say he isn't effective at tackling or isn't a good tackler. Those tackles are made that way to try to separate the player from ball. It's good technique.
To each his own. I was taught hat on the ball and wrap up. Yes DJ knocks the hell out people. Is it fun to watch that? Yes it is but when It takes the chance of the penalty that with him Is normally coming afterwards. Just do it right.
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Looks like Manning may have still been pissed off about DJ picking him off in a practice before the preseason game. Too bad they don't play in the regular season where we could see Manning go up against the Texans when Watt and Clowney are playing. Then again, Manning probably doesn't open his mouth if that were the case.


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Real classy. A great player's career may be over. I'm not crying I'm just sad for the man who might not get to play the game he loves anymore.

Not saying it is DJs fault at all if that is what you are thinking.

Wow, some people are just pathetic
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They are well compensated for their work, they have nothing to complain about. Don't like the brutality go find a desk job.
I feel bad for the guys from the past that are in terrible shape from their injuries. I can't find the same feelings for guys now with all of the information out there about multiple head injuries. They are in a high pay, highly dangerous job, they should be setting themselves up to survive on what they are making because it could end any moment. And not end where you move on to a new job, end where you are unable to do everyday stuff for yourself. But, how many times do we see it, player has to give up the game due to injuries, and is bankrupt because of bad decisions and the thought process that the money will never run out.
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