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Old 08-24-2014, 07:57 PM   #41
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If Shaw was so great, why did none of the 32 NFL teams draft him?
If Alabama was such a good team, why did they lose 2 games in 2013?
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If Shaw was so great, why did none of the 32 NFL teams draft him?

I am not saying that Connor Shaw is great, or even good.

I am saying is your statement is idiotic just based on NFL history.

Drafting players is based more on hype and physical measurements more than any other factors (like game film, work ethic and character).

Fact: there are more Hall of Famers who were undrafted free agents than there are #1 picks.


Josh Cribbs went undrafted.

Jeff Garcia went undrafted.

Wayne Chrebet went undrafted.

Donnie Shell went undrafted.

Tony Romo went undrafted.

Larry Little went undrafted.

Jeff Saturday went undrafted.

Rod Smith went undrafted.

London Fletcher went undrafted.

Priest Holmes went undrafted.

Adam Vinateri went undrafted.

Willie Brown went undrafted.

Arian Foster went undrafted.

Brian Waters went undrafted.

Marion Motley went undrafted.

Wes Welker went undrafted.

Emlen Tunnell went undrafted.

Joe Perry went undrafted.

James Harrison went undrafted.

John Randle went undrafted.

Antonio Gates went undrafted.

Lou Groza went undrafted.

Warren Moon went undrafted.

Night Train Lane went undrafted.

Kurt Warner went undrafted.

Victor Cruz went undrafted.

Joe Jacoby went undrafted.

Willie Hood went undrafted.

Miles Austin went undrafted.

The list goes on and on.
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If Alabama was such a good team, why did they lose 2 games in 2013?

If SC is such a great team why did they not beat the crappy VOLS last year.
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If SC is such a great team why did they not beat the crappy VOLS last year.

It was the most embarrassing loss by far that we have had in a long time. I agree with that. It was rough.
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Yet, he still has done better than Manziel in camp and preseason games. So what's that say about Manziel that he is the chosen one and get every chance to look good and still looks like crap. Manziel will be a huge bust. He was overrated in college and is another media overhyped player to bust in the NFL.



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By the way, I'm not saying Manziel is the 2nd coming either. I'm a fair guy... I think everyone should get a shot, but the fact is that Johnny brings all of the excitement and hoopla and you have to take it for what it is. Shaw was undrafted. Johnny was drafted in the 1st round. They aren't going to START Shaw after 1 game in the 4th quarter. A&M had a guy, Jerrod Johnson that always played well in the Steeler's preseason games. He never got his shot either. Like I said, I think Shaw is a much more serviceable number #2 or #3 QB. I mean come on... Blaine Gabbert looks like a turd and he STILL manages to find his way as a backup.
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If SC is such a great team why did they not beat the crappy VOLS last year.
Thank you for actually proving my point again. Read GH's post, you will learn why your statement is a fallacy.
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I am not saying that Connor Shaw is great, or even good.

I am saying is your statement is idiotic just based on NFL history.

Drafting players is based more on hype and physical measurements more than any other factors (like game film, work ethic and character).

Fact: there are more Hall of Famers who were undrafted free agents than there are #1 picks.


Josh Cribbs went undrafted.

Jeff Garcia went undrafted.

Wayne Chrebet went undrafted.

Donnie Shell went undrafted.

Tony Romo went undrafted.

Larry Little went undrafted.

Jeff Saturday went undrafted.

Rod Smith went undrafted.

London Fletcher went undrafted.

Priest Holmes went undrafted.

Adam Vinateri went undrafted.

Willie Brown went undrafted.

Arian Foster went undrafted.

Brian Waters went undrafted.

Marion Motley went undrafted.

Wes Welker went undrafted.

Emlen Tunnell went undrafted.

Joe Perry went undrafted.

James Harrison went undrafted.

John Randle went undrafted.

Antonio Gates went undrafted.

Lou Groza went undrafted.

Warren Moon went undrafted.

Night Train Lane went undrafted.

Kurt Warner went undrafted.

Victor Cruz went undrafted.

Joe Jacoby went undrafted.

Willie Hood went undrafted.

Miles Austin went undrafted.

The list goes on and on.
Just ribbing you guys. I hope Shaw does well. He seems like a good guy with a level head on his shoulders and will have a great future without football because of that alone.
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I love Shaw as much as anyone but I don't really understand how you can say that Shaw is "much better" than JM. Unless you're a browns coach how could you make that claim.
Did you see him play? He was the same Shaw we have been watching for years. Perhaps it was coincidence he was eight for nine. Then again........
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If Alabama was such a good team, why did they lose 2 games in 2013?
that's a really terrible argument, fyi
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Did you see him play? He was the same Shaw we have been watching for years. Perhaps it was coincidence he was eight for nine. Then again........
I know and I was so happy to see that. However, it's nfl preseason ball. Everyone here knows that it doesn't mean crap. It's just a showcase. The browns coaches know a lot more than any of us do. I hope he gets his chance and proves that he's the man that we all know he can be but I still stand by the fact you can't state he's definitively better than a Heisman winning once in a generation type player.
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that's a really terrible argument, fyi
Of course it is, that's the point. Read follow up posts to get the whole idea.

GH did all of the homework, arguing that someone isn't a good player just because they aren't drafted has been proven a silly argument.
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Either Pettine is the worst coach in the NFL or he just hates Connor Shaw. It had to be torture for Shaw to simply sit on the sidelines last night while Hoyer stunk it up for the whole first half. Johnny played better than he did last time out, but still never looked as crisp as Shaw did.

It's clear the Browns have no intention of even giving Shaw the closer look he earned the other night so I hope they do the right thing and let him go so he can catch on with another team.
Pettine has to figure out who his QB is going to be. He is putting in a new system and both his top 2 QBs need reps in it. While I was surprised Shaw didn't play, I imagine we will see him a lot next game. The next game is figuring out who to cut and keep. This game was figuring out who your starters/contributors will be. Lots of staters played in the second half this go around. I think they like Connor fine. I think they want to keep him, at least for the practice squad.
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I know and I was so happy to see that. However, it's nfl preseason ball. Everyone here knows that it doesn't mean crap. It's just a showcase. The browns coaches know a lot more than any of us do. I hope he gets his chance and proves that he's the man that we all know he can be but I still stand by the fact you can't state he's definitively better than a Heisman winning once in a generation type player.
That must be why they have been so awesome always.
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Just ribbing you guys. I hope Shaw does well. He seems like a good guy with a level head on his shoulders and will have a great future without football because of that alone.

That's cool.

What is the outlook on the Utah State game? I know zero about it.
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Yeah no one on Cockytalk is bias for Shaw???? LOL He played well against the scrubs of one team and we have him as the starter, not one of us has been to a Brown's practice that I'm aware of but it is the Brown's coaches being bias not the Gamecock fans...Shaw will get his shot, but it makes more sense to cut him and sign him off waivers while not letting any other team see him again though I think we see a good bit of Shaw in the Brown's last preseason game.

If you've read any of my posts here you'd know I'm pretty objective. Shaw plays against the same players that Manziel and Hoyer play against. All teams throw out a mix of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd stringers throughout every preseason game.

Of course the Browns coaches are biased. What if the roles were reversed and they happened to draft Shaw 1st round, give him a huge sum of money, and he went out and played like that. Think they would sit him the next game? No sir.

I'm not saying they should start Shaw the next game, I'm just saying they would be dumb to not give him another chance to prove that he's the best QB on the field.
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That's cool.

What is the outlook on the Utah State game? I know zero about it.

Could be iffy. The VOLS have are rebuilding but I hope we win.
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Yet, he still has done better than Manziel in camp and preseason games. So what's that say about Manziel that he is the chosen one and get every chance to look good and still looks like crap. Manziel will be a huge bust. He was overrated in college and is another media overhyped player to bust in the NFL.
Overrated in College??? You mean a guy that breaks the Single game record for Offense in the SEC not once, not twice, but THREE times, the same guy that won a Heisman as a Freshman and then had better stats the next year and didn't win simply because his defense sucked??? That's the guy that was overrated? Have you watched any of his highlights and still say he is "overrated"? Come on guy you can't honestly believe that.

Hyped in the NFL? yeah for sure he is. Big things are expected of those that have done big things. Is he still a Rookie and 21 years old and needs some big time work before he is ready to start? YES no doubt about it.
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Of course it is, that's the point. Read follow up posts to get the whole idea.

GH did all of the homework, arguing that someone isn't a good player just because they aren't drafted has been proven a silly argument.
There are plenty of examples of people that aren't drafted that do make it and do well, but is that really the norm? Look at the numbers and the percentages of those that don't get drafted and then DON'T make it.

The old saying "Even a Blind Squirrel finds a nut every once in a while" comes to mind.

Can it happen? Yeah, but is that really the norm?
Let's break this down simply for you.

So there are roughly 200 teams that produce players each year (FBS and FCS only) so let's say those rosters average 80 players and then lets say that 1/4th of them are seniors. (Using round numbers her for you guys) So that means that there are about 4000 seniors each year that finish college.
Now, look at the draft, 7 rounds of 32 and that is 224 slots. So you just named about 30 guys that span decades across the NFL...

Yeah he has a shot, but I just bought a lottery ticket and I have a shot to win that too.
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I'll say it.. SHAW IS BETTER THAN MANZIEL!! You heard it here first..!!!
Lots of yardsticks to pick from but if about having laser focus on the 1st down marker and winning games you've clearly picked a winner ;)
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Overrated in College??? You mean a guy that breaks the Single game record for Offense in the SEC not once, not twice, but THREE times, the same guy that won a Heisman as a Freshman and then had better stats the next year and didn't win simply because his defense sucked??? That's the guy that was overrated? Have you watched any of his highlights and still say he is "overrated"? Come on guy you can't honestly believe that.

Hyped in the NFL? yeah for sure he is. Big things are expected of those that have done big things. Is he still a Rookie and 21 years old and needs some big time work before he is ready to start? YES no doubt about it.
He receive we too much credit for his teams success. He played with stud OL and WRs, in an offense that inflates QB stats. Having 2 top draft picks protecting him with a freak WR to loft it up to whenever in doubt made him look a lot better than he actually was.
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