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Old 08-25-2014, 03:44 AM   #101
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That makes no sense. If you throw the ball over the middle when the safety is running toward you WR, you are effectively responsible for putting him in that position. Do you think Welker would've taken a hit if Manning didn't throw it?
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He's a grown-ass man, he can make his own decisions. I'm voicing my opinion dude, if you don't like it hit the ignore button.

Folks with multiple concussions like Welker are at a high risk of dementia, depression, and neurological conditions like ALS. That's not opinion, that's fact.

Whether he wants to do something about it is entirely up to him. I hope he has someone with more interest in his welfare than you advising him.
So what interest do you have it in his welfare? He is certainly not asking you for your opinion on his future. That's for dang sure. I wasn't telling him what to. It's not my place to have an opinion on his future and neither is it yours. He doesn't need you to explain all the dangers because it has already been explained to him by the actual experts. Just because you don't think it is worth it to risk all those things, He might. He just might love playing that much. You don't know him so stop acting like you know what's best for him.
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Horse collar is just tackling, so is clothesline, bio I'll intent, just heat of the moment.

Have your never read the sticker on the inside of a Helmet? People use helmets weapons and that is why there are rules...fairness and safety. Why should anyone care if someine breaks their neck or someone else's?
What are you talking about? DJ was not using his helmet as a weapon. He was making a clean shoulder tackle and Welker ducked at the last second and caught a forearm in the side of the helmet. It was not a targeting or using his head as a weapon situation at all.
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The Midgets name is Wus Walker, what did you expect when he went up against Swag? Peyton better be glad DJ didn't do that on purpose and wasn't in jungle boi mode or the Broncos would be without a QB this year too!

Before I saw the video I was like oh shit DJ is getting a huge fine because I just knew he was gonna deck peyton for getting in his face.

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What are you talking about? DJ was not using his helmet as a weapon. He was making a clean shoulder tackle and Welker ducked at the last second and caught a forearm in the side of the helmet. It was not a targeting or using his head as a weapon situation at all.
I swear some that frequent Cockytalk need to take a class on interpreting what they see in videos. But you sir are correct!

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That makes no sense. If you throw the ball over the middle when the safety is running toward you WR, you are effectively responsible for putting him in that position. Do you think Welker would've taken a hit if Manning didn't throw it?
Indeed. Peyton knows that DJ is a hard hitter just like the refs he saw this coming and was mad at DJ for a mistake he himself made?
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That makes no sense. If you throw the ball over the middle when the safety is running toward you WR, you are effectively responsible for putting him in that position. Do you think Welker would've taken a hit if Manning didn't throw it?

Do you think well we would have taken the hit if he didn't voluntarily play the game? Game.set.match...it's football.


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I'm going to let this thread die eventually but here's a good clip of Manning getting in DJ's face that caused the taunting penalty after the td and DJ giving it right back to him. Looks like Peyton said "F--- you" and DJ responded with "F--- you too". Ha ha.

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Great blog post about this:

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/s...-texans-fight/

"Peyton Manning exposed as a spoiled brat: Cry baby, F-Bomb dropping QB can't handle D.J. Swearinger's fight"
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Welker's had at least 11 concussions in his career. A 5'9" 185 lbs WR going across the middle vs 6'+ 225 lbs head hunters like DJ is a recipe for a head injury....
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So what interest do you have it in his welfare? He is certainly not asking you for your opinion on his future. That's for dang sure. I wasn't telling him what to. It's not my place to have an opinion on his future and neither is it yours. He doesn't need you to explain all the dangers because it has already been explained to him by the actual experts. Just because you don't think it is worth it to risk all those things, He might. He just might love playing that much. You don't know him so stop acting like you know what's best for him.
It's a message board.

That's what we do.

We post opinions. I've never once called you out for your dumbass opinions, not sure why you're up in my grill about mine.

For the record I love Wes Welker, and only want what best for him. If he can't see that than maybe we're not right for each other, but that's none of your business.
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he needs to stop all the bullshit talking though.
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Looks like Peyton said "F--- you" and DJ responded with "F--- you too". Ha ha.
Actually one of those articles said Peyton said "F--- you" and DJ responded with something like (paraphrasing)"Thanks man, good luck to you too" which I thought was kind of funny. Maybe that was a joke or something, though, I skimmed and don't recall the context.
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Maybe you should follow your own advice:

Um, I am... not sure what your point is? Swearinger talks about as much shit as an Aggie does. I like Swearinger but that getting in your face and talking smack on a 1 yard loss is getting old in this town. He's talking smack when we're 2-14!
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What are you talking about? DJ was not using his helmet as a weapon. He was making a clean shoulder tackle and Welker ducked at the last second and caught a forearm in the side of the helmet. It was not a targeting or using his head as a weapon situation at all.
DJ's hit was...clean? I say that with a question mark because I do not know the NFL rules for targeting. If someone would post the NFL rulebook section on targeting, it would clear up some confusion.

BTW, I wasn't talking about DJ using his helmet as a weapon, I was talking about other things in football tackling. Welker caught a shoulder, not a forearm.

The question rather becomes was Welker a defenseless player or a player in a defenseless position. Here is the standard you will hate but it doesn't matter because you can't do anything about it: It's a judgement call by the officials
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In football you take hits, but a QB is responsible for putting the ball in a position to keep his WR safe while also moving the chains. In this instance, it's preseason. He didn't need to throw it there. It's also on the coaches for calling a pass across the middle to a tiny WR.
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You don't have to explain football to me I played the game for 10 years....but I guess what you are saying is a slant pass or middle post is a bad play call? You often see your smaller slot receivers run that route. You call it against any zone and wit the exclusion of cover 2...,so I'm referring to quarters and cover 3, there is a chance that a safety will be waiting. There is also a chance the safety is going to wiff or be stuck flat footed by another receiver running a middle deep route and your small little slot man is taking it for 6.


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facepalm...you are right. That hit was DJ esque though...
I think the year before he caused a fumble in the bowl game though
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Feel bad for Welker. It happens though.. and DJ is an intense player. The Texans knew who they were drafting when they did. I think they made a good decision.
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