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Old 08-27-2012, 05:08 PM   #61
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I'm a blitzing fool... If it were up to me I wouuld hire Joe Lee back in a heart beat! Long live the FIRE ANTS!!
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Old 08-27-2012, 05:16 PM   #62
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Default Re: Lorenzo Ward's Play calling

Lawing and Whammy have both stated that our D will be very similar to last year's. We are not overhauling our D since it was effective. We are fine tuning or tweaking it by adding more aggressive play calling. No coach has stated that we will be blitzing often or wildly. We just won't be sitting back as much, letting a QB pick us apart like Arky, ECU and thUGA did.
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Need to make the O guess what we are going to do. Being unpredictable is the key.
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I believe in Coach Whammy. You have to keep constant pressure on these qbs. I dont care how many guys you drop back in coverage, a qb with a lot of time is going to find an open receiver. I'm sure Coach Whammy will be sending guys from all directions at different times, causing confusion among the qbs that we will face. Have some faith.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:21 PM   #67
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I blitz like it's going out of style on NCAA '13 and I'm quite successful.

In all seriousness, I agree with the comments about EJ's defense the last few years here. I think what he did while he was here was good, but I can't help but think it could have been a lot better. I used to get so frustrated watching teams just pick apart his zone defense because he refused (or at least seemed like it) to blitz. Sure, blitzes aren't always successful. Ask any seasoned DC if blitzing works 100% of the time, and they'll all tell you no. My theory, however, is keep blitzing and change your calls, because at some point you're eventually going to get to the QB and make something happen.

I'll be excited to see the aggressiveness Coach Ward has talked about when we hit the field on Thursday. I would definitely love to see the defense open with a blitz, similar to the Clemson game. If it doesn't work, sit back for a while and figure things out, and if we're in a position where we can afford the risk, then try it again.

It's scary how much better this defense can be when it's more aggressive. I know how nervous some of us are about blitzing when thinking about the secondary, but maybe a more aggressive front seven can provide the help the secondary needs early on.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:37 PM   #68
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too many threads like this focus only on pass defense and drastically overstate our problems against the pass at times last year. you would think we were getting beat for 300-400 yards consistently and that it was the only problem we had according to some posts.

maybe the op has a better recollection of the uga and ecu games than i have but i dont recall us getting killed because of mixed blitz packages. 3rd quarter vs ecu on their drive to cut it to 35-31, two plays of 20+ yards given up through the air, both plays we rushed our front 4. their first td pass of 25 yards, wr rushed 3 dlinemen, im pretty sure that pattern holds true.

same thing in the uga game, they didnt kill our corners. the only pass their wr's caught in the 1st half was a 26 yard td pass where we rushed 4. in fact that was the only pass their wr's caught until it was 28-20. at which point we did do a few blitzes, but the problem even with our blitzes is we were laying off their receivers too much giving him easy completions and letting him get in a rhythm.

i think the real difference we saw after those games is challenging receivers more. sure we didnt play a lot of great passing teams thats why i point to the pass efficiency defense more than the yardage given up.
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too many threads like this focus only on pass defense and drastically overstate our problems against the pass at times last year. you would think we were getting beat for 300-400 yards consistently and that it was the only problem we had according to some posts.

maybe the op has a better recollection of the uga and ecu games than i have but i dont recall us getting killed because of mixed blitz packages. 3rd quarter vs ecu on their drive to cut it to 35-31, two plays of 20+ yards given up through the air, both plays we rushed our front 4. their first td pass of 25 yards, wr rushed 3 dlinemen, im pretty sure that pattern holds true.

same thing in the uga game, they didnt kill our corners. the only pass their wr's caught in the 1st half was a 26 yard td pass where we rushed 4. in fact that was the only pass their wr's caught until it was 28-20. at which point we did do a few blitzes, but the problem even with our blitzes is we were laying off their receivers too much giving him easy completions and letting him get in a rhythm.

i think the real difference we saw after those games is challenging receivers more. sure we didnt play a lot of great passing teams thats why i point to the pass efficiency defense more than the yardage given up.
I've watched the UGA game from last year and I admit I haven't paid much attention to how much we blitzed, but if I get a chance to I'll watch a little bit of it soon and see how much it was.

You make a good point, however. It goes back to EJ not being aggressive and not blitzing, thus giving Murray time to sit back and find soft spots in the coverage. Any average QB can do that when given enough time to throw.
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Time to find Lorenzo another job yet?
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Old 08-28-2014, 10:27 PM   #71
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You know why Arkansas ate up Ellis Johnson the last 3 years? Because we sat back and let them attack us.

We also avoided playing competent passing teams last year which inflated our stats defensively against the pass. The teams that did throw the ball well, ate our defense for lunch, statistically speaking.

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The whole defensive staff.
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Old 08-28-2014, 10:58 PM   #73
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Ward had the entire summer to plan for this O and this is what we get? The talent is obviously not there, but that too is the coaches' fault.
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:03 PM   #74
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The D-Line is awful... I mean awful.. Deke Adams needs his ass chewed out..
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I know it's first game and all. But we should be better than this on D. Ward a Defensive Genius? BULLSHIT. He didn't adjust at all after the half. Not at all. And Deke Adams true colors as a coach are showing with JD and Kelcy gone. The had talent and he relied on that talent to make his D Line coaching abilities seem good. Now we see, he has no ability. A typical ACC coach that Ward brought in. Big mistake.
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The only confusion Ward caused was his own.
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Time to fire Deke Adams. We tried to justify his lack of results. Not happening anymore.
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I think Ward and Deke should be gone. Hire Brad back as the new DC
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I think Ward and Deke should be gone. Hire Brad back as the new DC
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