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Old 08-29-2014, 08:08 AM   #101
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It was pretty obvious when Ward said the scheme was changing that they were in trouble. The blame has to go to him and Adams for not recruiting the talent needed to run our standard D. I didn't like the hire of Adams but I guess he was all we could get at the time. Thanks to him and Ward we now have an acc calibre D-Line.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:11 AM   #102
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The 3-whatever defense sucked. It needs to be scrapped now which will pretty much make for a wasted fall training camp. I predict if it is not scrapped now, it will be after E. Carolina because they were just given a blueprint on how to pick us apart and probably have the athletes to do it offensively.
agreed last year at least with the 4-2-5 the linebackers were making plays in the passing game the 2nd half of the season. they were getting their drops and disrupting passing lanes. i also thought the blitz packages we did out of the 4-2-5 last year looked a lot better.

a&m does have a great oline and we are worse up front so thats one thing. ward seems to think its not the 3-3-5 thats the problem, that if we are more sound technically and tackle in space that it will make a difference. maybe if we can do those things maybe we can get this defense to at least half decent but there is no magic elixir for the lack of pass rush.

id rather just go 4-2-5 hopefully contain teams enough on early downs from running the ball or discourage them from running. as it was thursday night a&m had their choice between picking up 6 yards on the ground or 8-10 yard easy completions through the air.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:44 AM   #103
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It was pretty obvious when Ward said the scheme was changing that they were in trouble. The blame has to go to him and Adams for not recruiting the talent needed to run our standard D. I didn't like the hire of Adams but I guess he was all we could get at the time. Thanks to him and Ward we now have an acc calibre D-Line.

More like Big East D-Line.
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Did we touch hill more than once?
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:12 AM   #105
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Did we touch hill more than once?
We touched him lots....it's the tackling that gave us trouble!
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We touched him lots....it's the tackling that gave us trouble!

I meant in the backfield. I can't remember many times he was pressured.
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never without a blitz, even then maybe a handful of times but they either blew the tackle or he made them look silly. That third and long where the tight end like reversed field a couple of times and picked up the first was really bad. Like we're recruiting basketball players on defense or something.
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Our 3-4 is more like a 3-8 because we do not have the 250+ linebackers of Bama or NFL teams. A 3-8= no pressure, especially with no Dlineman that requires a double team. Basically, all 5 lineman block 5 and the RB picks up a 6th. If we have to bring a 7th constantly, heaven help us.
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I understand that you might want to try and apply pressure on the QB if you don't have a good d-line but that obviously is not our weakness.

News flash - our d line stunk it up. Got no pressure with just 4 and their qb ate our lunch. To beat a team like TAM your D has to be sound it all phases. We are a long way off, including the line.
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You know the O Coordinator last from A&M is just a mere 29 years old....Looked like a damn expert...creative...just a great night for him....SOS needs to make him an offer after the season.
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It was pretty obvious when Ward said the scheme was changing that they were in trouble. The blame has to go to him and Adams for not recruiting the talent needed to run our standard D. I didn't like the hire of Adams but I guess he was all we could get at the time. Thanks to him and Ward we now have an acc calibre D-Line.
Absolutely right. I've been so pissed off that all the recruiting, especially on defense, is reactionary. Last year it was, oh shit we are out of cb lets get a bunch, the year before that, oh shit all of the lb's are graduating lets get a bunch, and this year it will be the dline, which I guess in their defense they tried to address but failed to believe that maybe they should consider the entire effing class not making it in. There is seemingly no planning or forethought at all.

Then going to the 3-4 wasn't a move to make us stronger, it was reactionary to the fact that our d line was soft and our lb's sucked a little less than the db's.

They were lazy with the hire of Ward and this is the results. We had a top defense in the country and could have hired up anyone and we went the cheap route.
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Why did we not play bump and run on the am receivers
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It was pretty obvious when Ward said the scheme was changing that they were in trouble. The blame has to go to him and Adams for not recruiting the talent needed to run our standard D. I didn't like the hire of Adams but I guess he was all we could get at the time. Thanks to him and Ward we now have an acc calibre D-Line.
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It doesn't matter if we played a 5-5-5 last night...we weren't even close to pressuring or tackling everyone.

Remember when that one guy was running to the near side of the field and we had THREE guys about to stop him short on 3rd, and the guy stopped and reversed and went right by all three for a 1st down?

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It doesn't matter if we played a 5-5-5 last night...we weren't even close to pressuring or tackling everyone.

Remember when that one guy was running to the near side of the field and we had THREE guys about to stop him short on 3rd, and the guy stopped and reversed and went right by all three for a 1st down?

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Yeah, that happened about 15 times.
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I don't know why we didn't at least try it. I believe we would have been burned as those guys were quite a bit more athletic than our DB's. But at a point, what do you have to lose?
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I'm curious how many negative plays they had the whole game. Had to be less than 5.
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Our 3-4 is more like a 3-8 because we do not have the 250+ linebackers of Bama or NFL teams. A 3-8= no pressure, especially with no Dlineman that requires a double team. Basically, all 5 lineman block 5 and the RB picks up a 6th. If we have to bring a 7th constantly, heaven help us.
Nah, it's just a true 3-4 in that we played like we only had 7 guys on the field.
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after last night there is a new stat being tracked. it is YAJ (yards after juke). I have never in my life seen so many additional yards from juking. It was like it froze our tacklers...like they seemed snakebit with respect to ATM's speed instead of driving to the tackle.
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I don't know why we didn't at least try it. I believe we would have been burned as those guys were quite a bit more athletic than our DB's. But at a point, what do you have to lose?
I thought we tried it when Al Harris was standing at the goal line watching the TD pass.
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