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Old 08-29-2014, 03:49 PM   #9641
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Yeah I remember Gilmore getting abused a fair amount as a froshie too, but not like this.
Yup. I figure though that he had a better group around him. I don't think it was a matter of picking on one freshman, it seems like just a matter of picking on the secondary as a whole.
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A&M had a bunch of freshman in their secondary who played like seasoned veterans last night. Truth of the matter is as of right now, our defense isn't equipped to beat a team like the aggies because we simply do not have the horses to put pressure on the QB or the dbs big enough to fight off blocks against wr screens They have an up tempo offense that throws it sideline to sideline and sweeps off the edge. Our strength is our lb core and more equipped stopping offenses like Georgia or bama, downhill running teams. I think we will beat ecu because of the talent differences alone, but this defense needs to get something figured out because at the end of the year we face another offense just as good as the team we saw last night. If we had the recruits come in last year as we do this year it would of been a whole different ball game last night. Those recruits not making it in hurt us worse then I thought it would.
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My dad told me this was a really bad match up for us right before kick off and I got pissed off and hung up the phone, but he called it. He also said ecu will put points up on us if we try to defend them in a 3-4 scheme because it is a scheme used mostly to stop running teams and pro style offenses and not spreads and wr slips and screens. Whammy is not the one to blame because this scheme is used when ur strength is your linebacker group. He just simply don't have the players to run the defense he wants too. He saw that our Linebacker group is our strength and so he adjusted the best way he could. Recruiting is what hurt us last night
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Yeah I remember Gilmore getting abused a fair amount as a froshie too, but not like this.
I wouldn't even say abused, he got beat at times but like you said nothing like this.
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My dad told me this was a really bad match up for us right before kick off and I got pissed off and hung up the phone, but he called it. He also said ecu will put points up on us if we try to defend them in a 3-4 scheme because it is a scheme used mostly to stop running teams and pro style offenses and not spreads and we slips


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"I don't think it's the system," Ward said. "Whether we're in the 4-2-5 or the 3-4, we have to tackle and play in space and we have to find a way to get to the quarterback. Regardless of what defense we're in, it's the same deal." - See more at: https://southcarolina.rivals.com/con....xaj5tVvR.dpuf
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After spending countless hours in the spring and summer months implementing the defense, Ward contended the 3-4 scheme is here to stay.

"I don't think it's the system," Ward said. "Whether we're in the 4-2-5 or the 3-4, we have to tackle and play in space and we have to find a way to get to the quarterback. Regardless of what defense we're in, it's the same deal." - See more at: https://southcarolina.rivals.com/con....xaj5tVvR.dpuf
I didn't see that. I believe we should go back to our normal defense after this recruiting class comes in because if we don't we r gonna have a major problem playing teams like the aggies and Clemson every year
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A&M had a bunch of freshman in their secondary who played like seasoned veterans last night. Truth of the matter is as of right now, our defense isn't equipped to beat a team like the aggies because we simply do not have the horses to put pressure on the QB or the dbs big enough to fight off blocks against wr screens They have an up tempo offense that throws it sideline to sideline and sweeps off the edge. Our strength is our lb core and more equipped stopping offenses like Georgia or bama, downhill running teams. I think we will beat ecu because of the talent differences alone, but this defense needs to get something figured out because at the end of the year we face another offense just as good as the team we saw last night. If we had the recruits come in last year as we do this year it would of been a whole different ball game last night. Those recruits not making it in hurt us worse then I thought it would.
Which freshman DB's did they have? I just remember Watts with the big hit on the would be touchdown.

I'm seriously wondering how much of an effect not getting our freshman DB's in and started in summer practice hurt us as well....remember, they were the guys that did "too well" on a standardized test and had to retake it before being cleared by the NCAA.

Those DL recruits not making it really did hurt, but looking at the '15 commitment list, we should be good to go....if they stick.
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I didn't see that. I believe we should go back to our normal defense after this recruiting class comes in because if we don't we r gonna have a major problem playing teams like the aggies and Clemson every year
Yep, AFTER this recruiting class. I doubt we would've done the 3-4 if we had gotten those recruits in. I wonder how much of it is that we can only afford to have 3 down instead of 4...is the cupboard really that bare?
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I thought Sawyer had to go two years in JUCO before he could come?
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Your right, it was only their safety watts who is a true freshman, but he looked better then their two junior DBS who kept getting called for pi. I think a major hiccup last night was we wasn't getting a good jam on the recievers at all because their a timing based offense and we didn't disrupt that at all last night. If u go back and watch the game as well, their Qb hardly ever had to go through his progression because is first or second read was wide ass open. That is a very serious problem for us
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Only have to be in JUCO a minimum of three semesters.
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If we do keep this 3-4 scheme then we definitely need to be recruiting bigger DBS who can shed blocks, tackle in space, and jam recievers while covering on an island man to man. Also, massive dlinemen for gap sealements and filling for our linebackers to be able too contain the edge for sweeps and sideline running plays. Need more bulk then a Surrat or Dixon brothers have in the middle for this sort of scheme. You can't just plug and play that's for sure

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losing wideman hurt a lot
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Only one game but I agree with you about the coaching. There is a huge difference between Lawing and Adams, and a very obvious one.
the starting 4 on the DL are Lawing's players.....
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Hopefully A&M's line is just that good, and I cannot imagine a worse offensive match up to start the year with when playing CB's with no experience.
this....it doesn't excuse all the mistakes, but for young players to try to learn the 3-4 and the 4-3 was a recipe for disaster.
72% of plays we ran the 3-4 for an average of 7.7 yards per play
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They definitely lived up to the hype. Our OL on the other hand....
our OL did OK on passing plays for the most part, but didn't run block well at all.....I think some of that is a function of the plays we run in practice......
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