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Old 08-30-2014, 05:22 PM   #681
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Shaw just isn't an NFL quarterback. He's a good competitor though and someone that could be useful on a practice squad, but not a player that's a primary backup, let alone starter.

I don't see how it can be debated that Hoyer, Manziel and Grossman aren't better NFL quarterbacks. They aren't going to carry 4 quarterbacks. Shaw getting cut is probably the biggest non-surprise ever.
This is pretty much exactly what scouts and critics said about Russell Wilson a few years ago.
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Shaw just isn't an NFL quarterback. He's a good competitor though and someone that could be useful on a practice squad, but not a player that's a primary backup, let alone starter.

I don't see how it can be debated that Hoyer, Manziel and Grossman aren't better NFL quarterbacks. They aren't going to carry 4 quarterbacks. Shaw getting cut is probably the biggest non-surprise ever.
Please tell me how Hoyer and Manziel are better "NFL" QB's?? Manziel will NEVER have a completion percentage over 55% in a season, he will not be able to run around like he did in college.. It's the NFL, Manziel isn't a good QB, he's a good football player. If you can show me otherwise, I'd love to know, and don't mention his college stats.. Tebow had nice college stats too, we all saw how that panned out.. Hoyer played 3 good games last year before he got hurt, so I guess that shows he's a better QB, huh? Connor Shaw is just like Russel Wilson, IMO Wilson is just a little more athletic, Shaw is accurate and completes his passes at a pretty high percentage, he's very decisive, doesn't make a lot of mistakes, very smart player!
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Shaw just isn't an NFL quarterback. He's a good competitor though and someone that could be useful on a practice squad, but not a player that's a primary backup, let alone starter.

I don't see how it can be debated that Hoyer, Manziel and Grossman aren't better NFL quarterbacks. They aren't going to carry 4 quarterbacks. Shaw getting cut is probably the biggest non-surprise ever.
I've got an even better activity for you. Why don't you tell me the three worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL, and argue that they are better than Connor Shaw.

Let's start with Ryan Tannehill. Argue that he is better than Connor Shaw.
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Old 08-30-2014, 06:27 PM   #684
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This is pretty much exactly what scouts and critics said about Russell Wilson a few years ago.
Well some....and some called it right on Russell....he did have a tremendous Sr. season at Wisky.

People need to remind themselves that Connor is not one of those guys born to play QB. He's a great athlete and competitor that chose the hardest position to play and became good at it.
But now he's up against the best of the best...and he got his chance, and may be still getting his chance while getting paid. That's all anyone could ask for.

Connor's path forward was always about finding a place to see if he could develop into someone that could play. If the Browns give him that chance on the practice team, then that's more than a lot of guys get.
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Ryan Tannehill isn't even close to being a bottom 3 QB... He's really good. Not even going to touch the Russell Wilson comparison. Shaw was good at SC, but Wilson is a top 5-10 QB in the NFL.
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heard shaw got cut any idea who might pick him up. come to the panthers
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Ryan Tannehill isn't even close to being a bottom 3 QB... He's really good. Not even going to touch the Russell Wilson comparison. Shaw was good at SC, but Wilson is a top 5-10 QB in the NFL.
This^!

I like Connor but comparing him to Russell Wilson is Ludacris.

I'm a Steeler fan and he is better than either of our backups. So...
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They should have cut Rex. Where's the upside there? Haha
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So is there a time frame...1 week...or less....longer?....that Shaw could be on another team or assigned to the Brown's practice squad?
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Default Re: Connor Shaw Browns

Things are probably going to be pretty fluid very soon as far as backup QBs are concerned.

Did you see where the Bills signed Kyle Orton today for $5M as a backup?

Who's going to be Romo's backup? Grossman perhaps? Do you think he would stay in Cleveland if Jerry Jones offered him the right amount of coin?

Fisher left the door open for another QB at STL in his presser today.
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I wasn't necessarily comparing him to Wilson.. I'm saying, he has a similar skillset to Wilson's.
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Landry Jones will be a good nfl QB.
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Correct me if I am wrong but players with 4 accrued seasons or more are cut and immediately become free agents and can sign with whomever.

Players with less than 4 seasons accrued that are cut will go through the waiver wire

The waiver wire claims process starts 31AUG14 (tomorrow).

The Waiver order should be:

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It is conceivable that Washington signs Connor to their practice squad and as insurance but I don't see it.

It is conceivable that the Houston Texans could sign him but I doubt it.

I don't see Jaguars needing him.

It is very likely the Browns sign him to their practice squad.

Other teams that would be interested are the Jets, Cowboys and Seahawks
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It is very likely the Browns sign him to their practice squad.
Agree...and with the new 10 man practice team (v. 8), it opens a slot for a 4th QB. I don't think the Browns want to lose Connor. But this is where his agent gets into the mix....he is shopping Connor if needed.

Connor being a rookie puts him at the back of the line behind any experienced guys out there that could be signed...especially the re-cycled QBs like Rex Grossman. His path to having any kind of career would be to get signed to practice team, learn offense and show out, get bumped up to the 53 man somehow, eventually get some real PT, and of course look decent. That's not going to be easy...but we know our guy is up to it.
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Correct me if I am wrong but players with 4 accrued seasons or more are cut and immediately become free agents and can sign with whomever.

Players with less than 4 seasons accrued that are cut will go through the waiver wire

The waiver wire claims process starts 31AUG14 (tomorrow).

The Waiver order should be:

1. Houston Texans
2. Washington Redskins
3. Jacksonville Jaguars
4. Cleveland Browns
5. Oakland Raiders
6. Atlanta Falcons
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
8. Minnesota Vikings
9. Buffalo Bills
10. Detroit Lions
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25. San Diego Chargers
26. Indianapolis Colts
27. New Orleans Saints
28. Carolina Panthers
29. New England Patriots
30. San Francisco 49ers
31. Denver Broncos
32. Seattle Seahawks


It is conceivable that Washington signs Connor to their practice squad and as insurance but I don't see it.

It is conceivable that the Houston Texans could sign him but I doubt it.

I don't see Jaguars needing him.

It is very likely the Browns sign him to their practice squad.

Other teams that would be interested are the Jets, Cowboys and Seahawks
Doesn't he have to clear all the other 31 teams before Cleveland can sign him?
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Doesn't he have to clear all the other 31 teams before Cleveland can sign him?

Yes, the 31 other teams in the league have to "waive" their right to sign the player before the original team gets to "claim" him. If they do not claim him and no other team claims him, he becomes an unrestricted (unpaid) free agent.
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Yes, the 31 other teams in the league have to "waive" their right to sign the player before the original team gets to "claim" him. If they do not claim him and no other team claims him, he becomes an unrestricted (unpaid) free agent.
Just the way your post was worded. I thought you were saying Cleveland could sign him 4th
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Just the way your post was worded. I thought you were saying Cleveland could sign him 4th

I see what you mean.

I was pretty much just looking down the wire and see who may be interested.

I should have made the Browns comment last.
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