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Old 08-30-2014, 09:13 PM   #121
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Show me one shred of proof Ward's seat is hot right now. BTW since we're now gonna start throwing people under the bus for recruiting misses. Who do you suppose evaluated Beecher, Smelley, Cade Thompson, Hillary, McCollum, the list goes on so long that Shaw is the 1st, and only, QB to finish his eligibility here. Thompson will be the 2nd. You ready to fire Spurrier too?

Spurrier is the best we've ever had here & Ward's going nowhere.
I think it's fair to ask why we've only had one successful QB in SOS's time here.
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I think it's fair to ask why we've only had one successful QB in SOS's time here.
You have to admit Garcia was successful. How many times did he beat Clemson?
Also, Thompson beat Clemson so he was successful. Shaw, Thompson, Garcia, ... dang when you think of it we have had a good number of successful QBs.
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This is the thing I simply can't get past. Other posts here have pointed out that our D was said to look good in fall camp. That can ONLY mean our offense is awful as well. It's simply impossible to believe that Thursday night was the first clue our coaches had the D was no good. If so, what's the point of practicing? And, it's not that A&M was simply outplaying us. Our D just look confused, unsettled, out of place. Nobody knew what to do and A&M took advantage of it.

As much as the bad D concerned me, it's more concerning how no member of our multi-million dollar coaching staff anticipated it.
You wont get an argument from me on this. What were they watching??
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Do you remember this GC article a few weeks ago regarding Mike Davis?

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“Mike Davis has been hurt, he hasn’t practiced all week,” coach Steve Spurrier told the Sportstalk radio network after Wednesday’s practice. “I don’t know if he’d even be able to start or not. But we got Brandon Wilds, he’s ready to go. Shon Carson, Dave Williams, so we’re in good shape there.”

Wednesday’s practice was closed with no media availability afterward. A USC sports information official was unclear as to why Sportstalk was able to speak to Spurrier at the end of practice
A lot of people here said, "Oh, that's probably just one of HBC's old smoke-and-mirrors deals." Thursday night we found out it wasn't.

How does a stout RB like MD get bruised ribs if guys aren't hitting in practice?

Maybe we don't hit hard in practice because guys don't know how to dial it back. That's not necessarily a problem but they need to find a middle ground if that's the case.

The tackling issue may correct itself real soon if they can figure out a way to hit in practice without hurting key players if that's the case. It may not be as bad as it looks.
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You have to admit Garcia was successful. How many times did he beat Clemson?
Also, Thompson beat Clemson so he was successful. Shaw, Thompson, Garcia, ... dang when you think of it we have had a good number of successful QBs.
Garcia was more about unfulfilled potential than anything else. Too inconsistent and too many suspensions.

Thompson? One win over Clemson and one Hail Mary to win a bowl game don't make a successful QB.

Shaw is the only QB we've had who has prolonged success.
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You have to admit Garcia was successful. How many times did he beat Clemson?
Also, Thompson beat Clemson so he was successful. Shaw, Thompson, Garcia, ... dang when you think of it we have had a good number of successful QBs.
I thought so too
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Show me one shred of proof Ward's on the hot seat. BTW since we're now gonna start throwing people under the bus for recruiting misses. Who do you suppose evaluated Beecher, Smelley, Cade Thompson, Hillary, McCollum, the list goes on so long that Shaw is the 1st, and only, QB to finish his eligibility here. Thompson will be the 2nd. You ready to fire Spurrier too?

Spurrier is the best we've ever had here & Ward's going nowhere.
Don't include The HBC in what I said. Of course the HBC is the best we've ever had!

On the other hand, what has Ward done? The defense has been crumbling since EJ left, and there is NO excuse for what happened Thurs night. Maybe I should rephrase: Ward should be on the hot seat right now.
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I think it's fair to ask why we've only had one successful QB in SOS's time here.
Successful QB's?!?!? We're talking about the need for an above average defense right now!!!!! "Successful" would be too much to ask right now as "average" would be a HUGE improvement in defense!
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Don't include The HBC in what I said. Of course the HBC is the best we've ever had!

On the other hand, what has Ward done? The defense has been crumbling since EJ left, and there is NO excuse for what happened Thurs night. Maybe I should rephrase: Ward should be on the hot seat right now.
Crumbling since EJ left? Get real, that's the problem with some of you folks on this board. Give me the status of our D with EJ vs now. Nix had a similar problem that Ward's now getting.

Hell Charlie Strong wasn't good enough for some of you either but he went on to Fla and is now a pretty good head coach. Miss me with the bullshit. Critique the guy but cut the shit man.
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Crumbling since EJ left? Get real, that's the problem with some of you folks on this board. Give me the status of our D with EJ vs now. Nix had a similar problem that Ward's now getting.

Hell Charlie Strong wasn't good enough for some of you either but he went on to Fla and is now a pretty good head coach. Miss me with the bullshit. Critique the guy but cut the shit man.
Want proof? How about a team setting records against USC on Thurs night? The fact that it was a "record" would sugget it was the most yards ever gained against USC, so what other evidence do you need? It is a fact that was the worst defensive showing by USC EVER.
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Don't include The HBC in what I said. Of course the HBC is the best we've ever had!

On the other hand, what has Ward done? The defense has been crumbling since EJ left, and there is NO excuse for what happened Thurs night. Maybe I should rephrase: Ward should be on the hot seat right now.
Just keep making xxxx up. Last year USC was 12th in the nation in scoring defense & 19th in total defense. If that's crumbling what word would you use to describe an offense that was rated 34th (total offense)?

In 2012 USC was 13th in scoring defense & 11th in total defense.


Now why don't you back up your argument & give us the offensive stats & lets see how they stack up against the defensive stats you claim are so pitiful since Ward took over.

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Old 08-31-2014, 02:18 AM   #132
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You're free to believe the earth is flat if it suits you. I don't know what you define as "ever". Maybe you're young & think football started here 20 yrs ago. But I can assure you that we've played many games worst than what we saw Thursday night. FSU came in here one time & beat us something in the range of 59-0. I could give you multiple other examples but I've tried to erase them from my mind & have no desire to relive them. This is not even top 10.
TAMU had 680 yds offense.
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If the defense performed well in fall camp then that can only mean our offense is awful. Anyone who has ever played a down of competitive football knows there's simply now way on earth there can be that big of a discrepancy between practice performance and game performance. From "good in fall camp" to "worst ever performance in the history of the program??" No sir.
this is the problem.....you never know how a team is going to perform against another team.....players get used to their teammates abilities in practice and learn how to best play against them......the coaches had seen our front 4 and LB play last year and they performed pretty well......same for the safeties......only the CB were totally untested.....so how did they play so bad since they never payed that bad before......partly first game, partly playing a new defense, partly up tempo they ran 100 plays and we wore down, but mostly A&M's offensive players were just that much better and different than anything we've played against before. We've all seen lots of games over the years, but I have never seen an offense that was run that crisp and precise......we did make a lot of mistakes so we made it easier on them than we should have, but still you've got to give credit where credit is due......let's just hope we can clean up some of the problems and come out and play much better next week....if not, then I suggest you spend a lot more time in your favorite liquor store.
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How in the hell can you blame Spurrier?
Simple bro how can you not? We have beaten teams with offenses like A&ms many times and how you ask? By our offensive play calling the best defense for an offense like theirs is keep them off the field. We were only down 10 points and Spurrier who calls ALL of our offensive plays abandoned our gameplan. Any more questions?
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Simple bro how can you not? We have beaten teams with offenses like A&ms many times and how you ask? By our offensive play calling the best defense for an offense like theirs is keep them off the field. We were only down 10 points and Spurrier who calls ALL of our offensive plays abandoned our gameplan. Any more questions?
we have not beaten teams with offenses like A&M.....some ran similar offenses, but none ran them as well as A&M did.
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Let me use Alabama's 2013 schedule as an example......if you'll notice A&M scored 42 on them last year. Now look at the rest of the season and how many points Alabama gave up. Let me help, it was 6, 0, 3, 7, 0, 10, 17, 7, 0, 28. Plus Bama had the benefit of playing VaTech first before playing A&M. I'm not saying that our defense is anywhere close to being as good as there's, but A&M scored more on them, by far, than any other team did. My point is that A&M's offense is real good, better than any offense we'll see this year. If we just make some adjustments, simplify things, and play with some emotion, I think we'll see a big improvement the rest of the year. Hopefully.


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we have not beaten teams with offenses like A&M.....some ran similar offenses, but none ran them as well as A&M did.
True but will our strategy against the others not work against atm if we actually kept to it?
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True but will our strategy against the others not work against atm if we actually kept to it?
They have been beaten so it can be done.
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TAMU had 680 yds offense.
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I know I was there & saw every stinkin one of those yards. I've already said it was one of the worst defensive performances I've ever seen. But we also scored 28 & had 400+ yards ourselves. We've been beaten much worse than that multiple times (45-0, 59-0) where we were totally inept on both sides of the ball & the game was over in the 1st qtr. Hell, MSU came in here 1 yr, ran the opening kickoff back & didn't need another point to win. They unfortunately did realize that at the time & kept scoring anyway.

It's simple math. We lost by 24 points & that is what decides the outcome. If yards allowed was the end all then I've got some disturbing news for you. Clemson beat us last year.

BTW if we go to College Station next year, give up 600 yards & get beat 50-0 would the 52-28 score still be worse?
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